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Buzz is way closer to boomer than GenX! Might even be a Greatest Gen'er.
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Pucky Freak
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This has to be my favorite post of the month
I AM a Millenial technically. I own my house, a rental property, have three 3 kids, and been married over 11 years at age 32. Paid off my student loans too. Where's my stereotype gosh darn it!?!?
jeffnvegas
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Okay dude. I get it. It can be dished out but not returned. Color me gone! ( a boomer expression from the 60's). I will bother y'all no more. Good luck to all on their hunts!!
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That's crazy how your camera was randomly place on a salt block.
Haha you called Buzz a millennial. You haven’t been on the site for long.
You sir have deep set entitlement. You surely didn’t cover enough of the unit to have any idea of its age class or genetics. You sat your butt on a 4 wheeler and complained and complained.
What a waste of a good tag.
Elkmagnet
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I'm going to asked that everyone who posted on this thread read my post here in its entirety.
I Had the pleasure of meeting Jeff during his hunt. We talked for probably 2 hours on the side of a road during which time he was very cordial and seemed like a pretty upstanding dude, disabled vet, limited mobility, yadda,yadda. In short he told me what he thought would get him info.
Jeff,
First off I told you that you were wrong on the wording of the tresspass law and you still are. While I agree with you on your overall perspective of the area with regard to that law you are not acutely understanding the law.
To those of you who have never been to the area and don't understand the situation of the current trespass law in idaho please note that your options will be taken with a grain of salt.
Secondly the internet is a small ass world! And Owyhee county is even smaller.
Also dude WTF!
Now many of you know that I live in this unit and am very familiar with it and the animals within it. During our conversation I decided to divulge quite a bit of elk info to you jeff. I dropped pins on your onx maps to glassing points where you would see bulls and to places where I had seen bulls within the past week that were well above the size of the one you shot. I showed you numerous recent videos of bulls in the 330-350 range. Jeff you told me that you were really hoping for something in the 350 to 370 range. I told you that it can be tuff to get the elk here to bugle from a quad in early September and to try parking just shy of ridges and walking over to get responses. I also told you that I had not seen one that big recently but that if I did I would come to your camp and let you know. I asked in return that if you happen to see a mule deer of 190 plus that you called me to tell me. We agreed and parted ways. I believe that was on September 11th?
Anyways I happen to locate what I was sure was a bull over 370 while looking into the rising sun the morning of the 13th. I watched him bed I then proceeded to leave and bumped in to you on the road. After I ate lunch we went back together and I set you 1000 yd from that bull and pointed him out to you in the timber. You were not able to spot him but came back and found him in the open later you sent me some pictures which I thank you for.
Through further evaluation and better angles I was thinking that this bull is knocking on the door of the 400" mark you mentioned so many times in this thread. I'm not going to post them on the Internet but you and I both know that we both have pictures and video I could prove this with. This bull was less than 1000 yd off the road on public land and had been there for at least a week or 10 days I know this because I had been hearing him bugle and could recognize his bugle. Being familiar with the area and how the elk react I told you how I personally would set up on him the predominant winds and how I would glass him morning and night to keep track of him until the opener on the 15th. You argued with me and told me that you would not so much as move your camp which was a few hours away in the "known" elk area.
Now perhaps you are trolling, positing to detour applications but after speaking with you and reading this thread I don't believe so and with a fraction of a percent drawing odds. I doubt it is going to help. I personally never plan to put in for that hunt even though it is currently the golden ticket.
Also you were well aware of the prescribed burn and knew In advance to avoid the area.
I have since shown a few outtfiters some videos of that bull and am told that it is absolutely 400" and was even offered 10k for his location by a certain drnewface. Drnewface makes me sick with his practice of buying wildlife and I would much rather see someone (like I thought you were) get this true bull of a lifetime.
Unfortunately it seems I was wrong about your character. While I certainly understand the frustration of not knowing a unit and having limited mobility. It seems that you have been nailed with your whining. You sir had a bigger bull in front of you than 99.9% of elk hunters ever will. You should be ecstatic. You chose how you wanted to hunt him. You wanted to shoot him from 600yd and told me that you couldn't get closer than 200 because thats where you were sighted in!?!? You also committed a cardinal sin by divolging his location to whomever you came across. Or so I have been told.
You are the reason many are reluctant to share good info with strangers.(I am done giving strangers info out here)
You act as if Rachel is to be waiting for your call and the blm is to postpone habitat improvements because you drew a tag. This is strange to me.
I personally view your statements here as a slap in my face.
I want to congratulate you on your bull and I wish you well.
I also would prefer to no longer communicate with you.
I Had the pleasure of meeting Jeff during his hunt. We talked for probably 2 hours on the side of a road during which time he was very cordial and seemed like a pretty upstanding dude, disabled vet, limited mobility, yadda,yadda. In short he told me what he thought would get him info.
Jeff,
First off I told you that you were wrong on the wording of the tresspass law and you still are. While I agree with you on your overall perspective of the area with regard to that law you are not acutely understanding the law.
To those of you who have never been to the area and don't understand the situation of the current trespass law in idaho please note that your options will be taken with a grain of salt.
Secondly the internet is a small ass world! And Owyhee county is even smaller.
Also dude WTF!
Now many of you know that I live in this unit and am very familiar with it and the animals within it. During our conversation I decided to divulge quite a bit of elk info to you jeff. I dropped pins on your onx maps to glassing points where you would see bulls and to places where I had seen bulls within the past week that were well above the size of the one you shot. I showed you numerous recent videos of bulls in the 330-350 range. Jeff you told me that you were really hoping for something in the 350 to 370 range. I told you that it can be tuff to get the elk here to bugle from a quad in early September and to try parking just shy of ridges and walking over to get responses. I also told you that I had not seen one that big recently but that if I did I would come to your camp and let you know. I asked in return that if you happen to see a mule deer of 190 plus that you called me to tell me. We agreed and parted ways. I believe that was on September 11th?
Anyways I happen to locate what I was sure was a bull over 370 while looking into the rising sun the morning of the 13th. I watched him bed I then proceeded to leave and bumped in to you on the road. After I ate lunch we went back together and I set you 1000 yd from that bull and pointed him out to you in the timber. You were not able to spot him but came back and found him in the open later you sent me some pictures which I thank you for.
Through further evaluation and better angles I was thinking that this bull is knocking on the door of the 400" mark you mentioned so many times in this thread. I'm not going to post them on the Internet but you and I both know that we both have pictures and video I could prove this with. This bull was less than 1000 yd off the road on public land and had been there for at least a week or 10 days I know this because I had been hearing him bugle and could recognize his bugle. Being familiar with the area and how the elk react I told you how I personally would set up on him the predominant winds and how I would glass him morning and night to keep track of him until the opener on the 15th. You argued with me and told me that you would not so much as move your camp which was a few hours away in the "known" elk area.
Now perhaps you are trolling, positing to detour applications but after speaking with you and reading this thread I don't believe so and with a fraction of a percent drawing odds. I doubt it is going to help. I personally never plan to put in for that hunt even though it is currently the golden ticket.
Also you were well aware of the prescribed burn and knew In advance to avoid the area.
I have since shown a few outtfiters some videos of that bull and am told that it is absolutely 400" and was even offered 10k for his location by a certain drnewface. Drnewface makes me sick with his practice of buying wildlife and I would much rather see someone (like I thought you were) get this true bull of a lifetime.
Unfortunately it seems I was wrong about your character. While I certainly understand the frustration of not knowing a unit and having limited mobility. It seems that you have been nailed with your whining. You sir had a bigger bull in front of you than 99.9% of elk hunters ever will. You should be ecstatic. You chose how you wanted to hunt him. You wanted to shoot him from 600yd and told me that you couldn't get closer than 200 because thats where you were sighted in!?!? You also committed a cardinal sin by divolging his location to whomever you came across. Or so I have been told.
You are the reason many are reluctant to share good info with strangers.(I am done giving strangers info out here)
You act as if Rachel is to be waiting for your call and the blm is to postpone habitat improvements because you drew a tag. This is strange to me.
I personally view your statements here as a slap in my face.
I want to congratulate you on your bull and I wish you well.
I also would prefer to no longer communicate with you.
Elkmagnet
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Hey Buzz did I run into you while scouting moose in Wyoming at the end of September? We were stuck in the same ruts trying to get past each other on a muddy road in the dark?
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If that is what happened then Jeff, dude, that is messed up. Some hunttalk penitence is in order.
BuzzH
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I don’t think so, but appreciated your post about the crybaby.
El Jason
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Your post confirmed what my gut was telling me.
Elkmagnet
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It was probly some other young whippersnapper all you Wyoming guys look the same to me.
I believe everything you said here. Makes total sense in the context of Jeff’s posts.
Now Jeff will ghost everybody while his tail is between his legs, his reputation here is gone, and he will probably blame others for his plight.
You seem to be under the impression that even in a controlled hunt there should be monster bulls behind every tree. That's not real life. These bulls don't survive multiple years of hunting seasons to grow big antlers by hanging around where all the hunter are.
Also private landowners are not going to post signs if not required by law. They have no obligation to meet your decency wishes.
It's too bad you ended up shooting a bull that you think is a shame.
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Years from now when the story of that hunt is told around the campfire it won’t be about the countless hours e-scouting, glassing far mountainsides, long grueling stalks, packing meat or the pursuit of the awesome elk that was shot. Instead it sounds as though it will be about how a tag was punched for the pure sake of avoiding having tag soup and that the state and private landowners robbed the opportunity of a better trophy.
Addicting
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Reading thru this shit show of a thread leaves me amazed. I would give up my left nut for a 328 bull and not having a 200 of my newest hunting partners on each and every ridge. @elkmagnet thanks for all that you did to try and help, it’s shitty that it turned out this way, you are welcome to have a beer in my camp at any time.
