US and Israel attack Iran

[SAJ-99]

To the bolded, yes.

But I think this administration takes it to a new level. Corruption, hypocrisy, lies…indefensible indecency. We can only race to the bottom so long till we splat.

One can curse the partisans of the last 30 years, and see the brokenness in both sides - fingers pointed at the insanity of other to justify their own - but there’s some real lines being crossed as of late. Things that four, eight, twelve years ago would’ve been scandalous defeaters are now just shrugged off.

Be it aeronautics, firefighting, scuba diving, etc, the Normalization of Deviance is a progressive path to tragedy. We’ve seen the aberrance of American leadership over and over, but things keep on chugging and so we don’t realize how deep the shit we might be in is, or how far we have fallen, and I believe we should be more concerned than ever before.


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The market showed some weird stuff on Friday that convinces me that someone knew of this decision before the rest of the World. Stock Market down but defense names up, oil up $3, gold up, Treasuries rally despite a morning hot-print on inflation. Too many things pointing the same direction. The question I ask is do I feel better thinking this is just the corruption of the administration in gear with people sharing little tidbits of info with friends or do I want to believe someone listening because they can't run a secure operation? Neither makes me comfortable, but I made some money off of it so...

The good news is that this isn't all that "new". The Iranians were chanting "Death to America" in the 1980's at the same time Reagan was selling them weapons. It made Ollie North a right-wing joke hero. Kind of makes some of the comments on this thread from guys that were old enough to know about that a little humorous.

Edit: Oh, and my rule is - if it is an official statement, just assume it is a lie. If it is Trump answering a question in real time, he is probably saying more than he should.

 

[Bonasababy]

British air base in Cyprus was hit by Iranian drones. Kuwait mistakenly shot down three US jets. Spain orders US aircraft to leave.

 

[Ben Lamb]

So the Olympics are over, huh?

 

[406dn]

I just got home from the gym. Given the events of the weekend, there was some political discussion. Everyone, more or less, already knows the various viewpoints. So, most of the time, we stick to the weather, hunting, grandkids, etc. It got a little heated this morning, but not out of line.

I was able to get an extra rep on most every lift I do. I told my wife, if Trump could keep me this annoyed, I'd make some progress in the gym.

At least when GWB went to war with Iraq, he laid out his case, and assembled a number of allies in the cause. I was unconvinced then, but at least he gaslighted us, up front, about weapons of mass destruction. This time no case made, our allies don't want to touch it with a ten foot pole.

If we don't stay, the government that emerges will be the side with the better weapons.

 

[Wind Gypsy]

If we don't stay, the government that emerges will be the side with the better weapons.

Lord help us avoid putting substantial boots on the ground in the first place..