Do remember, any Independents, Libertarian, or Republicans for that matter - if your state holds open primaries, there is a political strategy to keep in mind...
D's Stance on Public Lands - Comparison between candidates
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Do remember, any Independents, Libertarian, or Republicans for that matter - if your state holds open primaries, there is a political strategy to keep in mind...
Stay Sharp
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I find it odd that all these dems are spending so much time and effort and money competing to see which of them gets their rear end handed to them by the President. They are spending like crazy all for the chance to come in 2nd in November. Seems like a real waste of time to me. Their public land policy doesn't matter as none of them will get a chance to implement it.
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Perhaps I've listened to Fin "equal opportunity offender" too much.
But am I the only guy who believes the ONLY reason a non public land politician(and probably 75% of those too) would have any land policy is ONLY because the trial lawyers that back them haven't found a way to monetize it?
The way i see it is the majority of D see land as a club to beat R with over extraction.
Ask them (and Land Tawney) how quick the bulldozers will fire up for a wind farm or solar farm.
Sorry. But I see all their mouths moving. I feel lies might be spread.
But am I the only guy who believes the ONLY reason a non public land politician(and probably 75% of those too) would have any land policy is ONLY because the trial lawyers that back them haven't found a way to monetize it?
The way i see it is the majority of D see land as a club to beat R with over extraction.
Ask them (and Land Tawney) how quick the bulldozers will fire up for a wind farm or solar farm.
Sorry. But I see all their mouths moving. I feel lies might be spread.
Lets get this back on track from some usual offenders.....
Yang, when speaking was fairly cLear concise on public land policy ideas , however he received no traction and has since flew the coop
www.yang2020.com
Gabbard from what I can tell has no public land policy or direction, same with Steyer ..... all you get out of them is climate change Lip service .
Biden has been touted as Obama 2.0 however I am not sure I buy that.... any way I tried to read though his website and it was jumbled stumbling mumbling mess just like him.
Pete has impressed while listening to him speak, in that he is isn’t afraid to mention and acknowledge the roll of hunting and fishing in regards to the outdoor economy, however when you go and read his actual platform we ( hunting and fishing) don't even get a token mention.
Yang, when speaking was fairly cLear concise on public land policy ideas , however he received no traction and has since flew the coop
Preservation of Public Lands and Water - Yang2020 - Andrew Yang for President
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Gabbard from what I can tell has no public land policy or direction, same with Steyer ..... all you get out of them is climate change Lip service .
Biden has been touted as Obama 2.0 however I am not sure I buy that.... any way I tried to read though his website and it was jumbled stumbling mumbling mess just like him.
Pete has impressed while listening to him speak, in that he is isn’t afraid to mention and acknowledge the roll of hunting and fishing in regards to the outdoor economy, however when you go and read his actual platform we ( hunting and fishing) don't even get a token mention.
one ate E grain
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The people running come from states with just about no public lands, or very little. I think most Dems as a matter of course support the LWCF. The fund finances a lot more than purchasing access out west, dollars are spent in every state, often to enhance access and lands close to and in urban areas where most people spend time.
On issues hunting and guns... Klobuchar is a dependable vote for wolf management which is understandable as she is from Minnesota. Sanders has been a member of the Congressional Sportsmen's caucus from the days of flint arrowheads, he lives in Vermont a very rural state.
There are no standouts on the Dem side. Public lands are not a big issue with the general public I think.
I will say the concept of public lands shared by all, as well as the NAM of conservation is fairly socialist. he he
On issues hunting and guns... Klobuchar is a dependable vote for wolf management which is understandable as she is from Minnesota. Sanders has been a member of the Congressional Sportsmen's caucus from the days of flint arrowheads, he lives in Vermont a very rural state.
There are no standouts on the Dem side. Public lands are not a big issue with the general public I think.
I will say the concept of public lands shared by all, as well as the NAM of conservation is fairly socialist. he he
Addicting
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That is because if you are given a “Free” tag paid for with taxes you paid to the Government, you have to equally divide the harvested animal against all those who were not given a tag.
Every attempt to research any of the current candidates the liberal media sabotages the theme with hot words that take the following:
2020 Democrat Candidates position Hunting = "Gun Control".
2020 Democrat Candidates position Public Land = "Climate Change".
If Dems are not favorable w/ Repub extremes, Dems should look in the mirror.
Unless a Dem comes out close to a centrist able to bridge w/ centrist Repubs, Dems will effectively strengthen Trump's 2020 re-election.
2020 Democrat Candidates position Hunting = "Gun Control".
2020 Democrat Candidates position Public Land = "Climate Change".
If Dems are not favorable w/ Repub extremes, Dems should look in the mirror.
Unless a Dem comes out close to a centrist able to bridge w/ centrist Repubs, Dems will effectively strengthen Trump's 2020 re-election.
AlaskaHunter
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Sometimes actions are very different than stated policies.
For example, many republicans lamented about the deficit and national debt when Obama was President, yet now very few seem concerned about these....
Another example, Obama signed the bill that allowed firearms in National Parks....who could have predicted that?
No disagreement w/ what you are stating. In fact a thread on HT, I made the exact comment as you re: Obama National Park right to carry as it should have been from the get go.
Does not address the Dems must jump on Dem extreme side because Trump's too extreme as well as Repubs must jump with Trump's side because Dems are presenting extremes...
Does not address the Dems must jump on Dem extreme side because Trump's too extreme as well as Repubs must jump with Trump's side because Dems are presenting extremes...
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Bluffgruff
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I was polled by a pollster for democratic candidates a couple weeks ago, tons of questions, and rankings, and not one of them mentioned public lands. I asked her to add that into her polls because if I were a one issue voter, the decisions about public lands would be right up there at the top.
3855WIN
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Feel the Bern...
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Bernie Sanders on Environmental Protection
Find out more about Bernie Sanders on environmental protection — He has consistently advocated for legislation that protects watersheds and wildlife areas.
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I bet discussions about hunting and public lands rarely come up on the national campaign trail.
The average voter doesn’t care about public lands and many of the ones that think they do, don’t know enough to actually care or actually support a lot of destructive policy.
Take a look at a Las Vegas or Phoenix or SLC news comment section on an article regarding feral horses. A lot of leftists that want drilling, hunting and ranching eliminated don’t think there could ever be enough space for a high enough number of the pests.
With few exceptions only hunters care about hunting and having a place to do it.
The average voter doesn’t care about public lands and many of the ones that think they do, don’t know enough to actually care or actually support a lot of destructive policy.
Take a look at a Las Vegas or Phoenix or SLC news comment section on an article regarding feral horses. A lot of leftists that want drilling, hunting and ranching eliminated don’t think there could ever be enough space for a high enough number of the pests.
With few exceptions only hunters care about hunting and having a place to do it.
Schaaf
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Inventor and Political Analyst. Bolstering that Resume.
Irrelevant
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Pretty interesting to see how many people are confused and think this thread was meant for them. As @Trial153 pointed out, it's the same old offenders. They just can't help but try to show everyone how smart and funny they are.
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Amy Klobuchar did an interview a couple of days ago in CO that featured discussion on public lands:
www.9news.com
Amy Klobuchar on ICE, private prisons, public lands
Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) is one of several candidates making stops in Colorado, with less than two weeks to go until Super Tuesday.
www.9news.com
Mayor Pete's public land platform:
Article: https://floridapolitics.com/archives/320225-pete-buttigieg-unrolls-public-lands-and-oceans-agenda
Plan: https://peteforamerica.com/policies/public-lands/
Article: https://floridapolitics.com/archives/320225-pete-buttigieg-unrolls-public-lands-and-oceans-agenda
Plan: https://peteforamerica.com/policies/public-lands/
Addicting
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Amy Klobuchar did an interview a couple of days ago in CO that featured discussion on public lands:
Amy Klobuchar on ICE, private prisons, public lands
Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) is one of several candidates making stops in Colorado, with less than two weeks to go until Super Tuesday.
No matter what her stance is she is so far behind in the polls to big name crazies she will never win.
Which is unfortunate that anyone worth a damn will never make it in a presidential election. Heaven forbid we get to choose between two good candidates and not have to pick the lesser of two evils.
SAJ-99
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I think it would be difficult to find a politician's view on public lands, but I am impressed by the few that have one. It is a pretty secondary topic and would get lumped in with the environment. I guess there is no cost to a candidate being extreme on that specific issue, but on some of the other ones it may be hard to type up an extreme position if you have to tack to the middle in a couple of months. We have already seen this a little. I would like a politician be more supportive of carbon taxes so public land could be used as an offset and make money that way. The reality is that the LWCF has never been fully funded. I loved the recent podcast on buying duck stamps, and the idea of having a conservation stamp. That money has to be spent on conservation projects.
