Yellowstone Elk

[BigHornRam]

Two hard winters in a row.

Long, snowy winters taking toll on Yellowstone elk

Two hard winters in a row are weakening the health of Yellowstone’s northern elk herd.

missoulian.com

 

[Gerald Martin]

Stinking wolves. Now they are making it snow more to make it easier to eat winter killed elk.

 

[Southern Elk]

Good news is all of that snow has melted in the valleys. It could have hung around a lot longer than it did.

 

[375H&H]

I can’t wait for global warming to kick in one of these years...it would help wildlife out a bunch.

 

[BigHornRam]

Stinking wolves. Now they are making it snow more to make it easier to eat winter killed elk.

Blame it on the wimpy sun.

Cold weather WARNING: Solar minimum has ARRIVED and could last for more than a DECADE

THE sun has entered the solar minimum early, meaning we face a prolonged cold snap and extra cosmic rays, scientists have warned.

www.express.co.uk

 

[Sytes]

Maybe we need to give a "safe barrier" outside Yellowstone so the brutal "Trophy Hunters" are unable to murder them and they can find additional winter range...

 

[BuzzH]

3.4 bulls to 100 cows...and Montana calls that management?

Why not call it what it really is...a joke.

 

[Bambistew]

3.4 bulls to 100 cows...and Montana calls that management?

Why not call it what it really is...a joke.

Hey, that's about 190 bulls, and at least 50 of them might be 6 points... Sounds like they could kill a few more.

 

[Hunt West]

@BuzzH,

I agree 100% but if you want to see the entire comedy show and not just the one liner go look at region 1. What a disaster that is. Sad really...

 

[BuzzH]

@BuzzH,

I agree 100% but if you want to see the entire comedy show and not just the one liner go look at region 1. What a disaster that is. Sad really...

Know all about it...the elk numbers in the Bob are really impressive.

 

[BuzzH]

Hey, that's about 190 bulls, and at least 50 of them might be 6 points... Sounds like they could kill a few more.

I'd extend the season with those kind of numbers.

 

[Straight Arrow]

I'd extend the season with those kind of numbers.

Yep, the pressure to increase famed Yellowstone elk tag opportunities and wildlife management by Chamber of Commerce.

 

[Mtnhunter1]

Two hard winters in a row.

Long, snowy winters taking toll on Yellowstone elk

Two hard winters in a row are weakening the health of Yellowstone’s northern elk herd.

missoulian.com

As is the case with the northern Yellowstone elk herd, it mirrors throughout the rest of Montana's big blocks of public lands. It is truly frustrating and sad what is being allowed to happen to our Montana public land elk herds!

The last two winters have been rough on Montana's wild critters. I believe that this last winter was much harder then the previous due to the extremely low temps over a much longer late winter period. Good game management should reflect this reality for this fall's hunting season but the MTFWP will wait a year or two to adjust for this.

 

[shoots-straight]

3.4 bulls to 100 cows...and Montana calls that management?

Why not call it what it really is...a joke.

If you remember though, the Bio tried to limit the hunting of bulls in that region, but the outcry came from the outfitters and little was done after. I think she got the word from above on that one. Montanan's don't do loss of opportunity very well. I know every time we try that in the Root there's a outpouring of people that would rather kill the last Buffalo than lose opportunity.

 

[BigHornRam]

Outcry came from outfitters and local hunters. You couldn't pay me enough to be a Bio in Montana.

 

[BuzzH]

Outcry came from outfitters and local hunters. You couldn't pay me enough to be a Bio in Montana.

Why?

Easiest job on the planet...do a bit of flying (when that piece of chit helicopter they have runs), count a few elk, run through a population model to come up with some BS numbers. Get BS harvest data from the call center.

Combine all data into a report, then tell Thompson, Vore, Kujala you recommend the same season structure since the 1950's and roll with it.

Repeat for the next 30 years and collect pension...nothing to it.

If you're looking to move up do the following:

Don't rock the boat, reference the 30 year old hunter attitude survey saying opportunity at all costs, and forget about actually practicing biology by managing for bull to cow ratio's, buck to doe ratio's or actual carrying capacity. Don't EVER recommend a shorter season...ever. Take your marching orders from above, like a good minion...make sure to again forget practicing biology, that's a quick way to get fired.

Make sure to support anything that kills more big-game ie: shoulder seasons, season extensions, etc.

Take advanced "how to bullchit the public", "getting the most from fuzzy statistics", and "maintaining the status-quo" training courses.

You'll be a Supervisor before you know it.

 

[Dougfirtree]

Why?

Easiest job on the planet...do a bit of flying (when that piece of chit helicopter they have runs), count a few elk, run through a population model to come up with some BS numbers. Get BS harvest data from the call center.

Combine all data into a report, then tell Thompson, Vore, Kujala you recommend the same season structure since the 1950's and roll with it.

Repeat for the next 30 years and collect pension...nothing to it.

If you're looking to move up do the following:

Don't rock the boat, reference the 30 year old hunter attitude survey saying opportunity at all costs, and forget about actually practicing biology by managing for bull to cow ratio's, buck to doe ratio's or actual carrying capacity. Don't EVER recommend a shorter season...ever. Take your marching orders from above, like a good minion...make sure to again forget practicing biology, that's a quick way to get fired.

You'll be a Supervisor before you know it.

This is impressively depressing...

 

[BrentD]

This is impressively depressing...

And not entirely accurate

 

[BuzzH]

And not entirely accurate

What isn't accurate?

 

[BrentD]

What isn't accurate?

Your cynicism