U.S. Debt Ceiling. 31.4 Trillion!

[Handlebar]

Pretty much sums it up.

Yes it does. That was the reason for my comment. They could come up with a tax scheme that brought in double the amount of revenue and they will still manage to spend more than they take in. Some of you are worried about the further development of a princely class through wealth. I worry about the same thing but it is the accumulation of political power that has developed a kingly class

 

[SAJ-99]

Yes it does. That was the reason for my comment. They could come up with a tax scheme that brought in double the amount of revenue and they will still manage to spend more than they take in. Some of you are worried about the further development of a princely class through wealth. I worry about the same thing but it is the accumulation of political power that has developed a kingly class

Little secret for you. Power and money are the same thing.

 

[Red-Team 98]

Don’t be like Bob

Don’t be Bob !

 

[Red-Team 98]

Here in this far Northernmost town in America. Even the local government excepted Biden money and now looking for projects to spend it on. Local EPA going after wood and pellet stoves. Now they would like to pave our gavel road so they increase property taxes.

 

[Handlebar]

Little secret for you. Power and money are the same thing.

 

[Gus Chiggins]

Power and money are the same thing.

Each one allows access to the other. But a lot of people don't know how to spend money or exercise power wisely.

Read that on a fortune cookie

 

[Handlebar]

Are they or do you need one to get the other

 

[VikingsGuy]

Yes it does. That was the reason for my comment. They could come up with a tax scheme that brought in double the amount of revenue and they will still manage to spend more than they take in. Some of you are worried about the further development of a princely class through wealth. I worry about the same thing but it is the accumulation of political power that has developed a kingly class

I equally have concerns about the insatiable leviathan administrative state. We have to stop both or this American experiment is likely over.

 

[BigHornRam]

Too many people spend too much of their valuable time and energy focused on the ultra wealthy and princely class. The only entity you have control over is yourself. It won't happen over night, but if you work both hard and smart, you will still become prosperous in this country. Imagine, if you are so inclined, the altruism you can do with your time and money once you become financially independent.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

 

[Deleted member 28227]

Too many people spend too much of their valuable time and energy focused on the ultra wealthy and princely class. The only entity you have control over is yourself. It won't happen over night, but if you work both hard and smart, you will still become prosperous in this country. Imagine, if you are so inclined, the altruism you can do with your time and money once you become financially independent.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

America - Don’t worry about fixing the problems, just worry about making enough money so they don’t apply to you.

 

[TOGIE]

Too many people spend too much of their valuable time and energy focused on the ultra wealthy and princely class. The only entity you have control over is yourself. It won't happen over night, but if you work both hard and smart, you will still become prosperous in this country. Imagine, if you are so inclined, the altruism you can do with your time and money once you become financially independent.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

people always misconstrue these conversations as sentiment of jealousy and hate for the wealthy. it's a bit of a red herring that further inflames and also reduces our ability to have real conversations.

i don't loathe fred eshelman because he's wealthy, i loathe him and his lackeys because they're all certified dickwad jackasses.

i think most of us are concerned about a too powerful state, re. vikingsguy last comment. i know i am, i'm just as wary of our government and it's size and reach as the next guy. but many of us are also concerned about a too powerful elite class. the thing is as that they often go hand in hand, and both typically lead to the demise of freedom as it is often defined.

 

[VikingsGuy]

Too many people spend too much of their valuable time and energy focused on the ultra wealthy and princely class.

“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain” comes to mind.

 

[noharleyyet]

America - Don’t worry about fixing the problems, just worry about making enough money so they don’t apply to you.

...while Cori Bush tells Gavin to hold her 14T$ beer. Might apply...

 

[Deleted member 28227]

...while Cori Bush tells Gavin to hold her 14T$ beer. Might apply...

Different brand same parent company.

 

[Sytes]

Ziiiing!

 

[LWC55]

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I don't mind the flat tax idea. But in reality, most taxes are paid by the end user/consumer. i.e. the lower man on the totem pole. Corporations don't just choose to make less money when their taxes are raised. They pass the extra expense on to the consumer.

 

[Deleted member 28227]

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yay! Regressive taxes for the win, let's make the rich richer and the poor poorer

Flat taxes are moronic

 

[Handlebar]

yay! Regressive taxes for the win, let's make the rich richer and the poor poorer

Flat taxes are moronic

I really don't understand explain to me like a 5 year old Serious question.

 

[Sytes]

yay! Regressive taxes for the win, let's make the rich richer and the poor poorer

Flat taxes are moronic

Bah! Poor become poorer is a farse used by opposition in the flat tax debate.

Poor don't drive Mercedes.

It maintains equality. The American dream.

Low income? Simple: F. Roosevelt's temp welfare intent turned socially long term accepted adapts. Low income, "reduced tax" for grocery/essentials.

Ziiing! Wish real fishing was this easy!

 

[SAJ-99]

yay! Regressive taxes for the win, let's make the rich richer and the poor poorer

Flat taxes are moronic

Make the Poors pay for it!!!