Gulf of America
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This one’s a hilarious accusation. Like next level comedy. I don’t recall a single democrat taking government stake in companies but Trump’s making USSR great again with his “deals.” Capitalism my ass.
Relax, Everything is Going to be Okay!
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rjthehunter
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Don't mistake me. Our Healthcare system is F**ked. I'm sure theres a happy medium out there somewhere where healthcare is affordable and readily available to anyone without paying for it through taxes. The whole "non profit" hospital who pays their CEO $20 mil a year is a joke. No reason a bandaid should cost $7 if it's given to you at the doc.
I think overall, most countries are healthier than the US. Isn't 70 some percent of the US population overweight? Its a crazy number like that.
Irrelevant
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Democrats currently represent zero threat to anything on the national level, so any, and I mean any, outrage directed at them is 100% in the snowflake category.
When did that start? Seems like the last year the good ole GOP is going hard nationalism, in opposition to capitalism. Openly picking winners and losers based on politics. Tariff are like the exact opposite. But I suppose that Argentinian beef fits the mold.
Hilljackoutlaw
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Were in a shutdown so yea they are a threat. They have votes to. There is absolutely zero reason why they cant pass this CR while the two teams of retards negotiate Healthcare.
BuzzH
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Yes there is a reason...you cant negotiate without leverage, and with lying liars.
El Jason
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It’s hunting season, and some folks aren’t getting paychecks because of governmental incompetence.
BrentD
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Our health CARE, per se, is ok (well not really). Our system of insurance what we are fighting about and is not even kind of ok. The problem is not the care, it is the incredible idustrial machinery that gets in between the patient and the doctor.
That said, if you google things like rates of mortality for mothers giving birth or infant mortality, etc, you will find that the USA is usually near the bottom of the list for most 1st-world countries and below many 3rd-world countries. We ain't as great as we think. Much of that is because so many cannot pay for care in this country.
El Jason
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But hey, obesity drugs will now be cheaper. Metaphorically, putting a $7 band aid on the problem.
bayoublaster7527
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I don’t know why it’s hilarious. It was a direct quote from Mamdani at a DSA convention.
Also not a fan of federal govt taking a large stake in private companies. Hypocrisy is abundant in the current political environment.
BrentD
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Did you know that Americans are the shortest people in the first world? When I was a child, I thought we were the tallest. Maybe my memory is bad.
Personally, the one place I feel private industry has no business.Being is in health insurance.
BigHornRam
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We need 7 democrats in the Senate to pass a continuing resolution, or a healthcare fix. Right now they own the shutdown.
BrentD
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That is a puzzling statement.
The republicans knew they did not have the votes to pass the resolution and keep the government open. When that happens, the only rational thing to do is negotiate with the other side and compromise. They have not even pretended to attempt to do that. If they had a super majority, they wouldn't have to. But they do not. Pretty simple, really.
BigHornRam
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Where do you come up with this?
Shutdown breaks record as Senate Democrats agonize over endgame - POLITICO https://share.google/8twCv4UoP58c802oL
Schumer owns this shut down.
bayoublaster7527
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It truly is a political impasse.
Could the Senate Dems just vote to pass the CR, open the government and then work on ACA subsidies? Yes.
Could the Senate Republicans just agree to some compromise on extending ACA subsidies? Yes.
But Senate Dems understand that shutting down the government is their only leverage right now. And they also see health care as a winning issue for them.
Senate Repubs however see that the longer the shutdown continues more people are affected, outside of just ACA folks. And they are betting that more of those folks begin to blame the Dems for the shutdown.
Currently it looks like the majority of general voters blame Republicans for the shutdown and this makes sense as they are the party in power. And so it continues as more Americans suffer.
Could the Senate Dems just vote to pass the CR, open the government and then work on ACA subsidies? Yes.
Could the Senate Republicans just agree to some compromise on extending ACA subsidies? Yes.
But Senate Dems understand that shutting down the government is their only leverage right now. And they also see health care as a winning issue for them.
Senate Repubs however see that the longer the shutdown continues more people are affected, outside of just ACA folks. And they are betting that more of those folks begin to blame the Dems for the shutdown.
Currently it looks like the majority of general voters blame Republicans for the shutdown and this makes sense as they are the party in power. And so it continues as more Americans suffer.
El Jason
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BS.
El Jason
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This is what happens when people forget, we are all in the same team, regardless of whether you agree or not. Time to share the sandbox, and stop #winning
Straight Arrow
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The reason(s) for Democrats sweeping recent elections is much broader than just the shutdown. The shutdown is seen as another reflexion of the Republican political arrogance and lockstep march toward knee-bending, bootlicking loyalty to the emperor.
The current economic conditions and decisions regarding beef imports are even turning heads of heretofore staunchly conservative cattle producers in my Montana. Our Congressional delegation is in hot water and getting hotter, as there does not seem to be an ounce of historical Montana political integrity among them.
Oh, how I wish for the sane, pragmatic, economically successful Republican party of my father and grandfather.
Nick87
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Do some of you guys who believe one party has your best interest over the other, still believe in the tooth fairy and Santa Claus? Curious.
noharleyyet
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The reason they won is that the elections were primarily in Democrat areas and almost 80% of Gen Z women voted for them in the high profile areas. The turnouts weren't very good.
Still, a win is a win, but like sports, you didn't play well just because you won. Sometimes, you were supposed to win.
As far as parties being like our grandparents experienced, that goes for both parties.
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