New guide rules in UT...

[1_pointer]

Utah just passed a new rule that anyone recieving money in for helping others hunt and/or fish in UT will require a guides' license. That includes folks that collect 'finders fees' for trophy big game.

PS- I wonder if any of the furor over the Spiderbull had anything to do with that?

PPS- I heard from a very good source that the total bill paid by they guy that shot the Spiderbull was just north of $600K.

 

[AZ402]

AZ has a similar rule up for debate, it'll be yay or nayed here pretty soon. You already had to have a guide license in AZ to get the finder fee. 34 is the one that has the potential to cause problems IMO.....



9 10. "GUIDE" MEANS A PERSON WHO DOES ANY OF THE FOLLOWING:

30 (a) ADVERTISES FOR GUIDING SERVICES.

31 (b) HOLDS HIMSELF OUT TO THE PUBLIC FOR HIRE AS A GUIDE.

32 (c) IS EMPLOYED BY A COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE AS A GUIDE.

33 (d) ACCEPTS COMPENSATION IN ANY FORM IN EXCHANGE FOR AIDING OR

34 ASSISTING ANY PERSON TO LOCATE OR TAKE WILDLIFE.

 

[MNHunter]

Good move Utah

 

[TOM IN TENNESSEE]

Yeah 402 that #34 could be interpreted in lotsa ways including bad

 

[guppie9]

I think line 34 is a continuation of line 33. I think if you read that whole sentence, it says that you must accept compensation for assisting the person. If you are just helping a buddy, it wouldn't meet the definition.

 

[Oak]

Yes, the number 34 is just a line number. All lines are numbered in legislative bills for easy amending.

 

[ERSS]

Sounds like the dues/fees that the Utah Guide Association collects each year will increase at least 10 fold. That is, if "guides" play by the rules. I bet it would be pretty hard to enforce...maybe just in real high profile cases.

$600K, wow.

Question: What do you think he can possibly recoup in income related to the Spiderbull? ( showings, casts made, etc. ? ).

 

[DRAFTSTUD]

Does that include the Cook, Rangler and the Boss' Wife who cooked Breakfast???? John

 

[noharleyyet]

Does that include the Cook, Rangler and the Boss' Wife who cooked Breakfast???? John

..and the new jackasses.

 

[AZ402]

Does that include the Cook, Rangler and the Boss' Wife who cooked Breakfast???? John

Here is the link, the way I read it, the cook would be considered a guide. If I'm reading it wrong let me know.

http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/1r/bills/hb2064p.pdf

 

[Oak]

I don't think the cook would be considered a guide. The cook is not aiding or assisting the hunter in locating or taking wildlife, he is just aiding the hunter in getting his eat on.

 

[1_pointer]

They better not require licenses for camp help! I wouldn't have anything to do in the fall... Anyone need a camp b!tch?

 

[Dinkshooter]

They better not require licenses for camp help! I wouldn't have anything to do in the fall... Anyone need a camp b!tch?

What kind of outfit do you wear? French Maid? Daisy Dukes?

 

[guppie9]

What kind of outfit do you wear? French Maid? Daisy Dukes?

I believe he dresses up as a civil war corporal!

 

[Frequently Banned Troll]

I think that's a good law to have. These finder's fee type hunters are a J.O.K.E. and if somebody's going to guide a hunter to an animal for $$, they should be required to be licensed by the state. Just my opinion.

 

[noharleyyet]

So instead of 600K the next spidey shooter pays 800K..think he cares?

 

[Frequently Banned Troll]

Probably not, but that's not the point. It won't keep it from continuing, no doubt.

 

[oleefish2]

here are some of the wyoming rules/laws
17. OUTFITTERS – Do I need an outfitter or guide to hunt in Wyoming?
Nonresident big or trophy game hunters are required to have a professional or resident guide
only if hunting big or trophy game in designated wilderness areas. Anyone can choose to hire
an outfitter while planning their hunt. Unlike some states, there are no set-a-side or allotment
of licenses for outfitters in Wyoming. If you are hiring an outfitter, make sure they are
licensed with the Wyoming Board of Outfitters and Professional Guides. A list of licensed
outfitters and guides is available from the Wyoming State Board of Outfitters and
Professional Guides, http://outfitters.state.wy.us or by phone at (800) 264-0981.
Landowners do not need a license from the Board of Outfitters while guiding or outfitting on
their own land. Any resident possessing a valid big or trophy game license may obtain a
resident guide license from the Wyoming Game and Fish Commission. This license
authorizes the resident to guide up to 2 nonresidents per calendar year provided they do not
accept any compensation or gratuity.
This mean nothing at all even if it is not $$$$.

 

[Frequently Banned Troll]

I've had my Wyoming resident guide a couple times.. he sucked! Good thing I wasn't paying him.

 

[Oak]

I've had my Wyoming resident guide a couple times.. he sucked! Good thing I wasn't paying him.

Funny, I was just talking with him about that last night. Guess he got tired of getting his ass kicked by his client, so he's getting in shape.