HB 514 signed

[Wind Gypsy]

Oh I missed that this was just for upland.

Kind of like ND does for waterfowl.. I was all for it when i was a ND resident and still support it as a NR.

 

[Eric Albus]

It most likely never fly tho

 

[elkduds]

It most likely never fly tho

I rarely agree with your posts here. Today I write to thank you for your efforts on behalf of MT resident hunters. Credit where credit is due, sir.

 

[Forkyfinder]

I rarely agree with your posts here. Today I write to thank you for your efforts on behalf of MT resident hunters. Credit where credit is due, sir.

I agree - i appreciate his posts and willingness to engage in a public forum. Not many have the stones to do it.I especially appreciate that @Eric Albus is willing to state his positions without a sugar coat or slick tongue of political vaguery.

@Eric Albus thank you.

 

[406dn]

A similar rule existed when our son was just coming of age as a bird hunter. It created some wonderful memories of phenomenal bird hunting, without either stepping all over someone else's toes, or them stepping on ours.

Thank you to Eric and everyone else who got this done. Some young hunter is going to benefit tremendously from this.

 

[Treeshark]

Some young hunter is going to benefit tremendously from this.

Many more young hunters across the country are hurt by this- and their dad’s are paying the freight for Montana resident hunters.

 

[BuzzH]

Many more young hunters across the country are hurt by this- and their dad’s are paying the freight for Montana resident hunters.

Huh, that's strange, I never did hunt out of state until 1995. Guess I didn't realize how badly I was hurt by only getting to hunt one state.

 

[Rack Daniels]

Relocating all the pheasant hunters outta the river bottoms and all the sage grouse hunters up into the mountains for their grouse instead—doesn’t help anyone.
Trash.


Boooooooooo

 

[Forkyfinder]

Many more young hunters across the country are hurt by this- and their dad’s are paying the freight for Montana resident hunters.

Montanas resources, and their citizens enjoyment of them, have been paying freight for NR opportunity for 10+ years.

 

[mtmuley]

Many more young hunters across the country are hurt by this- and their dad’s are paying the freight for Montana resident hunters.

Yeah. Can't back anything good for residents without non residents getting the sandy weiner. Wah. mtmuley

 

[INMT]

Many more young hunters across the country are hurt by this- and their dad’s are paying the freight for Montana resident hunters.

Total BS and you know it. PLENTY of opportunities for folks in their own states during the first 10 days of MT’s season. Lots of season left for people to bring their kids.

 

[INMT]

Relocating all the pheasant hunters outta the river bottoms and all the sage grouse hunters up into the mountains for their grouse instead—doesn’t help anyone.
Trash.


Boooooooooo

Cmon. You really think the folks that come en masse to eastern MT to bird hunt the prairies are going to be able to or want to climb mountains to kill a random bird or two. Highly unlikely.

 

[El Jason]

Many more young hunters across the country are hurt by this- and their dad’s are paying the freight for Montana resident hunters.

Did you forget the part where there are still 100+ days in the bird season?

 

[huntin24/7]

I can never relate to guys that get so whiny about these kinda things as if all opportunity has been taken away and they’ll never be able to hunt(insert species) again. ND has been doing this kind of thing for waterfowl and upland for about 20 years but more restrictive. I moved from there 18 years ago and had to plan accordingly to waterfowl and pheasant hunt with family and friends. Yeah, it wasn’t always convenient, but I made it work, never bitched about it once(because I was a non resident there after 25 years and not entitled to their resources) and had a bunch of great hunts there even with all their “non resident restrictions”. Lol

 

[406dn]

Many more young hunters across the country are hurt by this- and their dad’s are paying the freight for Montana resident hunters.

Oh, kiss my behind. You are compelled to troll on this subject.

I've hunted that part of the state for over 30 years. I could count the number of teen age non resident hunters on one hand.

Overwhelmingly, it a party of middle age and up men.

 

[Rack Daniels]

Cmon. You really think the folks that come en masse to eastern MT to bird hunt the prairies are going to be able to or want to climb mountains to kill a random bird or two. Highly unlikely.

In the name of opportunity? Yes I do. If folks want to hunt Montana as they’ve always done they will adapt to the changes and find the open arms that welcome them. This bill welcomes them to the mountains instead of the plains.. Any NR that wants to hunt birds in Montana, still will. I respectfully disagree with you. Two

 

[Perlodid]

In the name of opportunity? Yes I do. If folks want to hunt Montana as they’ve always done they will adapt to the changes and find the open arms that welcome them. This bill welcomes them to the mountains instead of the plains.. Any NR that wants to hunt birds in Montana, still will. I respectfully disagree with you. Two

I can guarantee you the vast majority of NR bird hunters (from the midwest at least) will not drive across the country to specifically hunt grouse in the mountains. A lot of them are coming from a place where they can already hunt ruffed grouse anyways (MI, MN, WI, etc), so unless they really really wanted blues it's not even a consideration. That's not really the appeal of MT upland bird hunting for most who come out, in my opinion. They want open country to watch their dogs work, a variety of species to chase, and moderate terrain. I think they are much more likely to just come to the same spots later in the season now (or not go at all, potentially) than to go up in the mountains. It's not just opportunity, it's the draw of a unique experience compared to what people can do at home.

 

[Forkyfinder]

Did you forget the part where there are still 100+ days in the bird season?

No - the feds own land in MT and NR tag sales mostly pay for BMA - so hes mad that he's "paying the bill" but has less opportunity.

Before joining this forum i thought it was just accepted fact - that hunting / fishing /recreating as a NR in any state had higher fees and more restriction than R.

 

[Rack Daniels]

I can guarantee you the vast majority of NR bird hunters (from the midwest at least) will not drive across the country to specifically hunt grouse in the mountains. A lot of them are coming from a place where they can already hunt ruffed grouse anyways (MI, MN, WI, etc), so unless they really really wanted blues it's not even a consideration. That's not really the appeal of MT upland bird hunting for most who come out, in my opinion. They want open country to watch their dogs work, a variety of species to chase, and moderate terrain. I think they are much more likely to just come to the same spots later in the season now (or not go at all, potentially) than to go up in the mountains. It's not just opportunity, it's the draw of a unique experience compared to what people can do at home.

Valuable argument. I appreciate the thoughtful response. Perhaps we will see…
The folks that see them in their neck of the woods, won’t see them as much and will call it a win. The folks that deal constantly with NR blasting shottys and running their dogs in the mountains may or may not see an increase and really have no way of determining or documenting. If I lived in Shelby or Glasgow or something, I might be singing a different tune than I am now…

 

[mtmuley]

In the name of opportunity? Yes I do. If folks want to hunt Montana as they’ve always done they will adapt to the changes and find the open arms that welcome them. This bill welcomes them to the mountains instead of the plains.. Any NR that wants to hunt birds in Montana, still will. I respectfully disagree with you. Two

I'm in the mountains quite a bit. I'll let you know how your theory shakes out. mtmuley