Forest Service Reorg - Progress or Politics

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The USFS announced a huge reorganization yesterday. It will be the continual debate around running government like an efficient business, and in the process of such, how much is truly the desire for efficiency and how much is politics?

National HQ will end up in Salt Lake City. Regions will be done away with. State offices will be the norm.


I'm all about using business practices to make government more efficient. That requires following business principles in how changes are studies/debated/arrived at, and how improvements are implemented. The DOGE efforts last year surely did nothing to make a compelling case that the process used or the manner in which changes are evaluated will result in anything beneficial or has any remote resemblance to how a business would do the same thing.

Call me a skeptic. Back in the early 2000s, I had a lunch meeting with someone who was tapped into the "Dispose of Public Lands" movement. He told me his side would eventually prevail, and not in one big sweep. Rather, they had a 25-year plan. It involved making Federal Land agencies ineffective and thus making it easier to transfer ownership to the states, who excel at disposing of lands. If successful in their efforts, the public would view the lands as a liability more than an asset. He gave examples of abuses that prevented better land management via litigation, Congressional/Executive mingling, and I had to nod in agreement that his examples did help further his cause.

Whether that strategy has remained, or is altered over the last 20 years, I took his comments seriously. Seeing the resulting work to defund agencies, defund PILT and SRS, lower financial returns from Federal lands, and politicizing public land policy with each new Congress/Administration, the strategy he explained is well down the path. And many in that land disposal movement who have succeeded him are promoting similar ideas.

Thus, my skepticism whenever politicians come up with ideas to make agencies more efficient. A business would hire consultants to interview management, customers (public land users), vendors, and others critical to the business success. A business would evaluation the market conditions, at the most basic level doing a SWOT analysis, and whatever helped gain as much information as helpful to making the recommended improvements. The consultants would then evaluate a series of alternatives, make recommendations to ownership, then advise on the best way to implement the new ideas.

That's a summary of how business does it. How DOGE did it, and how this USFS restructure has come to be has none of those processes. In my experience, when politicians are in such a hurry that they don't follow business examples, the mantra of "business principles" are merely a marketing bow wrapped around a politically motivated decision by those who hold the levers of power.

Sorry to be skeptical. Well, maybe not sorry. Better stated, a reality I've come to accept after 30 years of engaging in these issues. Only time will tell whether these changes result in better management of our Federal Lands.

If I had a Kalshi account where I could place a bet on such, history says easy money could be earned by betting against that predicted improvement.
 
Inefficiency stays the winds of tyranny - to paraphrase.

Whenever big government goes big on promoting centralized efficiency I get worried.
 
I'm sure over 90% of USFS staff are already in the West. Moving the HQ is for political purposes only, same as it was for BLM in 2019. The good news is that these decisions can be reversed, much like Biden reversed the BLM move. The downside is it costs us all money, upends the lives of some employees, and will probably kill a lot of research being done on our NF. But that all is probably the point of the decision.
 
It is hard to ever give the government the benefit of the doubt, but on its surface this move seems to make sense.

Once you get below the surface, to the substance it makes less-so.

If you move your agency management & top experts away from congress, then less information gets to decision makers. If you keep your people from interacting with committee staff, etc by virtue of distance, then we should expect worse outcomes.

If we're honest about where there needs to be more Federal Employees, it's in every district and every ranger station across the panoply of public lands under USDA.

Not sure how this move serves the millions of acres of public forest land east of the Mississippi though.
 
Not sure how this move serves the millions of acres of public forest land east of the Mississippi though.

There is significantly more acreage in the west though, right? So extending your concern to its logical conclusion would seem to support this move.

(I was happy to see a planned regional headquarters listed for Madison, WI.)
 
There is significantly more acreage in the west though, right? So extending your concern to its logical conclusion would seem to support this move.

(I was happy to see a planned regional headquarters listed for Madison, WI.)

Regional HQ's make a ton of sense and have been how the service has been laid out for a while, and I wouldn't be opposed to having some operations centralized in the west but in the past, that has shown to be an easy way to corrupt an agency.

Having State HQ's doesn't always make sense either since forests span state lines on occasion. Does the management of the forest change between those boundaries? How do you make sure two independent state offices are aligned and working towards the same goals?
 
What i loathe most about this move - proponents have been sold the idea this leads to more active management (ie logging) of public lands.

Thats great - but the EAJA and associated frivolous lawsuits dont much care where the office is and are still going to be the roadblock to that either way.
 
I don't think it is a coincidence that as the USFS's brand has diminished in the minds of locals and Americans over the years, more and more Forests have been consolidated to larger and larger collections of Geography. I think there is functional merit to having more "local control" (influence) over the management of our Forests, chiefly because locals are experts on the trends and needs. What this administration has done though, is create top-down edicts, the opposite of decentralized command, where dynamic and creative management solutions - which are exactly what we need more of - are career-riskers.

DC or Salt Lake, the larger issue I have experienced locally is Fealty. Congressional reps used to be people you could call upon to tell you what the hell was going on, and if unacceptable, they'd pull the strings to fix it. Now, we have an administration where any message from our Congressmen other than, "A most judicious choice, sire", is viewed as disloyalty to be punished, and they won't do it.

Overwhelmingly, all I have seen from this administration in the working groups and boards I am a member of, is disdain for local needs that run contra to the national PR campaign, which is mostly wind.
 
The "who" is so infinitely more important than the "where" that I think this will result in no measurable difference in outcome than if it had remained in DC.
 

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