I'm sure it really depends on who you cut it, like anything it's very difficult an apples to apples comparison. I'm not trying to wiggle out of my statement, more just saying I lack the knowledge to accurately discuss the full environmental of building a Tesla. But in broad termsI'm not knowledgable enough to fully understand the environmental negatives and positives with electric cars vs. gas cars. I remember reading that Tesla recycles their batteries, so is the only impact with extraction?
Based on my limited knowledge, I always thought that the impact of fossil fuels was much greater.
agreed.I'm sure it really depends on who you cut it, like anything it's very difficult an apples to apples comparison. I'm not trying to wiggle out of my statement, more just saying I lack the knowledge to accurately discuss the full environmental of building a Tesla. But in broad terms
1. American car, probably runs on gas or diesel produced domestically, transport from well head to refinery to vehicle is under 2000 miles... worst case.
2. Tesla, battery built out of material mined in Africa shipped to the US, electricity generated to run car is likely from either a coal or NG plant. In terms of power generated per BTU of OG product it's less efficient to: burn NG to create electricity then transport it through the grid to your house to your car, than to just burn that amount of petroleum in your car directly. A huge amount of electricity is lost in the grid. Obviously some areas have a higher % of power generated by renewable. But just because you are driving an electric vehicle doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't require petroleum to power it.
I'm not anti-electric, I just want the conversation to be honest.
Here is some info on Tesla batteries... pretty cool 60% is a decent amount of recovery in my mind.
Reading my mind.agreed.
I would have solar panels if I could afford them.
It always seems like the two choices are between the lesser of two evils.
I know a couple of people that have take-in-kind, clauses on their OG leases and essentially have a line from the well pad directly into their house. Hard to beat that, for low impact cheap.I would never buy residential solar, especially if you can’t participate in net metering, until home battery prices get to a point that you can economically store the energy you produce. Otherwise you’re just overloading the grid mid day when you’re not home and drawing from it when you’re not producing anything. It’s called the ‘Duck Curve’ if anybody wants to look that term up and look at the graphs.
Very useful. As solar expands power companies will struggle more with the duck curve and are very supportive of electrification of cars, fork lifts, and encouraging consumers to shift use to to off peak hours.. A new all night power demand on the grid could actually be quite useful.