Wyoming Corner Crossing Defense Fund

[Deleted member 20812]

I have no idea who JLS is

Just a half assed hunter who likes to train ugly dogs.

 

[BuzzH]

Buzz do you have your crayons out your yet? State, County and local officials are always going to support the land-owner. Taxes paid speaks volumes along with side payments. This case is going down that road. I maybe wrong, however allot is on the line and you seem to me that you are the one in charge? Good luck, glad I'm not in your position. I still firmly believe this case is at the wrong level.

 

[warmer]

I thought you gave up?

Me too.

 

[huntindawg]

@Mike S
Saying it won't/can't win because of money and politics isn't the same as feigning incomprehension of the issue...stick to the former and you won't seem as silly

 

[AvidIndoorsman]

We should make up a bunch of camo "Do you know how much money my boss has?" shirts to be worn this hunting season.

I formally request the expression "He's all hat and no cattle" be changed to keep up with the times to "He's all hat and no lawyers".

 

[seeth07]

I was going to explain...but I'm fresh out of crayons.

You know, its quite interesting that you make this comment. Literally over the weekend, I was talking with some family and I brought this case up as a discussion point with them and there was a 11 year old girl listening in. As a result, I felt I had to try and break this down so simple for a little girl to understand and in doing so, it really made me realize actually how simple this can and should be solved. Here is how I did it:

I think just about everyone in this nation can agree that if I own a piece of land, you cannot physically walk on my land unless I give you permission. In other words, by owning a piece of land, I, in general as a principle, own that piece of dirt and can pick and choose who can enter upon it directly.

I think it also is pretty much agreed on that with this piece of property, I, in general, as the owner of that property cannot tell or dictate what happens on my neighbors property. The simple reason being that the owner of that property has his rights to it just like I do mine.

These two statements are pretty black and white and while sure there can be some things that cloud it a little bit, it in general is pretty well accepted and defines what it means to own property and establish what is trespassing.

So I then asked the little girl this question:
Do you think it would be acceptable for me to take my hand and reach over the visible line between your pretend piece of property and my pretend piece of property?

Her answer was "no, because that's my property and what if I don't like you?"

A lot of talk and debate then ensued and I think its a perfect example of why this issue isn't so clear. However, I think it could be very easy to settle by just having the US federal government, via legislation or the SCOTUS simply answer the question "Is it considered a trespass and violation of property rights if a person passes any part of their body through the vertical space above the physical dirt surface of a property owner?"

 

[Irrelevant]

I formally request the expression "He's all hat and no cattle" be changed to keep up with the times to "He's all hat and no lawyers".

*sigh*
...still wrong coastie

"He's all hat and lawyers"

 

[AvidIndoorsman]

*sigh*
...still wrong coastie

"He's all hat and lawyers"

all hat and no cattle (not comparable)

1. (US, idiomatic) Full of big talk but lacking action, power, or substance; pretentious.

The implication is that "cattle" is equivalent to action, power, or substance. A hat and cattle rancher get's things done.

In Wyoming, you currently aren't a real rancher unless you 'sue the chit outta those a-holes'.

Expression stands, motion denied.

 

[Irrelevant]

all hat and no cattle (not comparable)

1. (US, idiomatic) Full of big talk but lacking action, power, or substance; pretentious.

The implication is that "cattle" is equivalent to action, power, or substance. A hat and cattle rancher get's things done.

In Wyoming, you currently aren't a real rancher unless you 'sue the chit outta those a-holes'.

Expression stands, motion denied.

My apologies, I thought you were trying to describe this:


Not this:

 

[Sasquatchewan]

all hat and no cattle (not comparable)

1. (US, idiomatic) Full of big talk but lacking action, power, or substance; pretentious.

The implication is that "cattle" is equivalent to action, power, or substance. A hat and cattle rancher get's things done.

In Wyoming, you currently aren't a real rancher unless you 'sue the chit outta those a-holes'.

Expression stands, motion denied.

Objection!

I thought being a real rancher was owning 6 acres and sharing pictures of Rip from Yellowstone with shitty quotes about loyalty and shyt, on Facebook!

 

[winmag]

Can someone message me when there are actual updates to the case? Getting tired of digging through this crap to see if anything has actually happened. Thanks.

 

[AvidIndoorsman]

My apologies, I thought you were trying to describe this:

Corner crossing
Hunting/tags/permits
Sage grouse
Sheep
Water
...

Seems like the stables have been cleared out of horse is all I'm trying to say

 

[Wind Gypsy]

Objection!

I thought being a real rancher was owning 6 acres and sharing pictures of Rip from Yellowstone with shitty quotes about loyalty and shyt, on Facebook!

Sustained.

UPOM FB confirms this to be true.

 

[JAG]

For the sake of contextualization, please recall that this is a dispute between two NON-Residents of Wyoming. The nonresident-landowner, Fred Eshelman, is a resident of North Carolina. Wyoming residents might not appreciate some of the negative mischaracterizations on this page, however harmless the intent.

Again, if you haven't already, I strongly suggest listening to the podcast by R. Newberg as it drips with nuance and generous amounts of wisdom given through self-awareness and empathy to all involved.

 

[fleabagmatt]

My apologies, I thought you were trying to describe this:
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Dang, FirstLite's 2022 Western Big Game collection is on point.

 

[Cornell Cowboy]

Here's a new article discussing the landowner involved: https://wyofile.com/corner-crossing...446098840&mc_cid=c15399c91c&mc_eid=a5a5939ee6

 

[utah400elk]

I believe there has now been a motion to have all future land disputes settled by 11 year old girls…can we get a second?

 

[Sasquatchewan]

I believe there has now been a motion to have all future land disputes settled by 11 year old girls…can we get a second?

Hear hear!

Here are possible outcomes when 11yo girls settle their disputes:

1. They end up forming an alliance and gang up on a random third party, most likely a teenage boy so we're all safe;
2. Stop talking to eachother for ever; and/or
3. Girl fight, lots of hair pulling, never makes it to court.

 

[utah400elk]

Point or order please. Many of the people on this site act like teenage boys (at times…myself included).

 

[cur dog]

Here's a new article discussing the landowner involved: https://wyofile.com/corner-crossing...446098840&mc_cid=c15399c91c&mc_eid=a5a5939ee6

Who's the bigger turd in this case? The landowner, or the Carbon County DA?
Is Her decision to have these guys charged based on the belief she is doing what's best for the residents of Carbon County?
I don't know much about the case, but I'll wager it has a lot to do with the landowner's money and political influence.