A-con
New member
I just signed it.
The web site has three other petitions you could sign. All three are for gun control.
The web site has three other petitions you could sign. All three are for gun control.
Urgent-corner crossing petition
- Thread starter ingomar
- Start date
OVER 1000 PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED THIS PETITION IN JUST OVER 24 HOURS!!! Since the House Judiciary Committee will take action on Weds. Jan. 30th, we only have a few days left to get the message across. Would be great to have at least 3000 signatures. Make sure all your friends and family members weigh in on the issue. Here is the link to the petition website again:
https://www.change.org/petitions/sp...=url_share&utm_campaign=url_share_before_sign
www.change.org is a petition website that has petitions from around the world on their site. For whatever reason, when you sign onto the Montana Sportsmen Alliance petition, it automatically links you to a anti-gun site. The only thing we can think of is that they lump petitions by general categories and automatically forward the signers to other petitions in those general categories. Rest assured MSA is made up of hunters and we are pro gun. We have contacted change.org to see if we can be separated out from those anit gun sites. Go to www.montanasportsmenalliance.com to verify who we are and what we stand for.
Thanks for all your support.
https://www.change.org/petitions/sp...=url_share&utm_campaign=url_share_before_sign
www.change.org is a petition website that has petitions from around the world on their site. For whatever reason, when you sign onto the Montana Sportsmen Alliance petition, it automatically links you to a anti-gun site. The only thing we can think of is that they lump petitions by general categories and automatically forward the signers to other petitions in those general categories. Rest assured MSA is made up of hunters and we are pro gun. We have contacted change.org to see if we can be separated out from those anit gun sites. Go to www.montanasportsmenalliance.com to verify who we are and what we stand for.
Thanks for all your support.
Topgun 30-06
Active member
Can this be put over on the MM website? I just signed and will do so if it's okay, but thought I should ask first!
Here is the response I received from change.org regarding being forward to an anti gun site after signing our petition:
Thank you for contacting us! Unfortunately, that is a feature that we cannot turn off but the petitions that are sent are random. When I signed your petition, I received a petition called Tony Burke: Protect sacred Aboriginal burial grounds in the Kimberley.
I hope that this helps but if you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to ask.
Thanks.
Maxine
The Change.org Help Center
Thank you for contacting us! Unfortunately, that is a feature that we cannot turn off but the petitions that are sent are random. When I signed your petition, I received a petition called Tony Burke: Protect sacred Aboriginal burial grounds in the Kimberley.
I hope that this helps but if you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to ask.
Thanks.
Maxine
The Change.org Help Center
Topgun 30-06
Active member
MM=Monstermuleys.com It's a website quite a few here are on and a lot more people that are mostly out in the Rockies
EasternMTHunter
Member
One of my friends who lives up in Glendive called me and told me he was called by one of the representatives (didn't say who) and was told he was not going to vote for it because this (corner crossing) apparently was heard by the supreme court and was not supported. I don't know if that is true or not and told him my guess was that the representative was just trying to make an excuse not to vote for it.
Top Gun
The petition is public info so feel free to post it on MM.
EasternMTHunter.
The legal review posted with the bills mentions possible legal questions but does not mention that the subject has been before the Supreme Court. Actually, if it were to go before the Supreme Court, we would finally have a definitive answer on the subject as opposed to the current gray area that exists. Sounds like the Representative is looking for an excuse not to support which is probably because of landowner pressure in his area.
The petition is public info so feel free to post it on MM.
EasternMTHunter.
The legal review posted with the bills mentions possible legal questions but does not mention that the subject has been before the Supreme Court. Actually, if it were to go before the Supreme Court, we would finally have a definitive answer on the subject as opposed to the current gray area that exists. Sounds like the Representative is looking for an excuse not to support which is probably because of landowner pressure in his area.
Topgun 30-06
Active member
Will do ingomar! You are correct on it being a gray area and nothing having come down from any courts in black and white as to it's legality.
jryoung
Well-known member
You'd be amazed at some of the responses you'll get from staffers....call him again and urge him to reconsider.
"Corner crossing (such as at section corners) in checkerboard land patterns is not recommended." Page 23.
http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/media...ess.Par.13836.File.dat/MontanaAccessGuide.pdf
If it went to the Supreme Court I'm assuming that this guide would be written differently with clearer language.
EasternMTHunter
JR is right about talking to the staffers. You might also direct them to the "comments" section of the petition where it lists the names and cities of those respondents who made comments. When the Rep sees the names of people from his district, they may want to change their stance.
Need to keep fighting for this one.
JR is right about talking to the staffers. You might also direct them to the "comments" section of the petition where it lists the names and cities of those respondents who made comments. When the Rep sees the names of people from his district, they may want to change their stance.
Need to keep fighting for this one.
BRI
Well-known member
I signed, voiced my support, and hope it passes. But I do believe it will be challenged in court as an infringement on private property and found unconstitutional.
Disclaimer: (only my opinion, based on nothing factual)
Disclaimer: (only my opinion, based on nothing factual)
Fatrack
Well-known member
question for those of you smarter than me. when this thing passes, would it be in affect this upcoming season?
D
Deleted member 20812
Guest
No guarantee I'm smarter than you, but it would go into effect October 1st I believe.
shoots-straight
Well-known member
Is there any "Hunt Talkers" that havent' signed yet?
noharleyyet
Well-known member
At the prevalent peril of being told to keep my NR opinions to myself I have signed and commented shoots....and was most likely assigned 10 times the bandwidth to do so as a resident. ; )
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1466 signatures and still climbing. Keep spreading the word as we will be turning in the count to the House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday. Be sure to call (406) 444-4800 to register your comments on HB 235 or go online at
http://leg.mt.gov/css/Sessions/63rd/legwebmessage.asp
to email the committee members.
http://leg.mt.gov/css/Sessions/63rd/legwebmessage.asp
to email the committee members.
