BOHNTR
Well-known member
Thanks, gents.....it's a tough time for my profession. When I started over 28 years ago it was much different than it is today. I feel for these young men/women just getting started.
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My thoughts and prayers to the DPD and all LEO's out there in the line of danger.
Well then Lloyd, offer up some solutions instead of belittling everyone who you don't agree with.
Wait for it....
Zach, there aren't a lot of solutions to be had.
For starters, living in a culture that makes firearms this accessible, they will fall into the hands of insane people. When that happens, innocent people die, just that simple. Whether its LEO's or kids on a playground...its the cost of doing business in a free society. It cant be stopped, it cant be avoided, unless you're a fan of infringing on second amendment rights. We just have to learn to accept it, and move on. Like I've stated, all we can do is mourn the loss of life and bury the dead from these type of deals. Prosecute the offenders to fullest extent of the law.
Nothing more to do with that.
I also don't believe that its healthy to make every single issue about race. An evil person is an evil person. Sure, they ALL have an excuse as to why they went off the deep end. Bottom line, its just that, an excuse...truth is they have probably been a full bubble off plumb for a long damn time.
I think also that accepting and trying to treat mental illness is a potential solution. Some are going to slip through the cracks, not realize they have a problem, or are even be aware they do have a problem. But, I don't believe, as a country, we are doing all we can to diagnos and treat mental illness.
I think continued training for LEO's, perhaps better screening prior to hiring (I know its pretty exhaustive now, but everything can be improved on). Maybe even increasing LEO pay to attract the very best. Invest heavily in good officers, use their skills to train others, etc. Continue to work on improving relationships between officers and the communities they work in. Lots of things can be learned over a cup of coffee as well as a lot of trust. Not sure of your community, but in mine, I don't think many people (me included) know a single officer here by name. I haven't taken the time to get to know them...and vice versa.
I also think that people making stupid comments, like members of the media being happy that LEO's died, asking where the outrage is for Black on White crime, etc. etc. is harmful. Its a failed attempt, at trying to box up the blame for a heinous crime, into some tiddy little bundle that fits nicely into racism, biases, and an agenda...none of that is doing jack chit to help address the problem. I don't differentiate any "side" having a monopoly on this behavior, just that it has to stop.
Beings how I answered the question, maybe you can provide your insight on solutions.
Zach, there aren't a lot of solutions to be had.
For starters, living in a culture that makes firearms this accessible, they will fall into the hands of insane people. When that happens, innocent people die, just that simple. Whether its LEO's or kids on a playground...its the cost of doing business in a free society. It cant be stopped, it cant be avoided, unless you're a fan of infringing on second amendment rights. We just have to learn to accept it, and move on. Like I've stated, all we can do is mourn the loss of life and bury the dead from these type of deals. Prosecute the offenders to fullest extent of the law.
Nothing more to do with that.
I also don't believe that its healthy to make every single issue about race. An evil person is an evil person. Sure, they ALL have an excuse as to why they went off the deep end. Bottom line, its just that, an excuse...truth is they have probably been a full bubble off plumb for a long damn time.
I think also that accepting and trying to treat mental illness is a potential solution. Some are going to slip through the cracks, not realize they have a problem, or are even be aware they do have a problem. But, I don't believe, as a country, we are doing all we can to diagnos and treat mental illness.
I think continued training for LEO's, perhaps better screening prior to hiring (I know its pretty exhaustive now, but everything can be improved on). Maybe even increasing LEO pay to attract the very best. Invest heavily in good officers, use their skills to train others, etc. Continue to work on improving relationships between officers and the communities they work in. Lots of things can be learned over a cup of coffee as well as a lot of trust. Not sure of your community, but in mine, I don't think many people (me included) know a single officer here by name. I haven't taken the time to get to know them...and vice versa.
I also think that people making stupid comments, like members of the media being happy that LEO's died, asking where the outrage is for Black on White crime, etc. etc. is harmful. Its a failed attempt, at trying to box up the blame for a heinous crime, into some tiddy little bundle that fits nicely into racism, biases, and an agenda...none of that is doing jack chit to help address the problem. I don't differentiate any "side" having a monopoly on this behavior, just that it has to stop.
Beings how I answered the question, maybe you can provide your insight on solutions.
I don't think anyone is happy when a LEO is killed in the line of duty, including the media. I have no idea who Don Lemon is, never heard of him. Can you provide his statement that says he is happy that this happened?
Seems like you're painting those in media with a pretty broad brush. Not saying or implying that the media isn't sometimes wreck less, but its equally irresponsible for guys like JWP58, to flat say the media got what it wanted (dead LEO's). That's a wreck less statement...best case. Those statements, when made without proof, are ignorant and wrong.
Can you find specifics, relevant to this case in Dallas, where the main-stream media stirred the pot and instigated what happened?
I must of missed it.
IMO this is a great article about what is going on in our country right now.
http://m.townhall.com/columnists/mi...s-now-is-not-the-time-to-mince-words-n2190747
But, as 1 user here put it, I'm just a bible thumping prude. What do I know.
I have found the answer in life is often (not always, but often) counter-intuitive.
In the instant case, violence can indeed be the answer, but so can love. The counter-intuitive part, difficult as it is, should be applied inside one's own individual heart. If you are leaning one way, you might best ought to be leaning the other.
To avoid getting to a point of violence though, or to having counter-intuitive struggles in the heart, we have to start early, with a firm but loving hand; not only with others, but with ourselves.
Like I said in another thread, people are like horses and mules. If your inclination is to hard-break, you might get better results with a softer hand. If you're a soft touch, you might want to be a little firmer so they don't take advantage of you. But if you beat a horse you get a beat horse. Someday he might try and take you at the worst possible point on the trail.
In the end, if you want a close, hard working team, it takes good leadership and a common goal. We have not had either since WWII. Maybe the Moon Shot. Without a common goal we can't find leaders and we can't be horses or mules; we become cats. You can't herd cats and no real leader wants to try.
In the mean time it might be best to spend more time working inside our own individual heart, leaning against our own inclination, with our own firm but loving hand. The times will someday give rise to a leader/goal but I don't think we'll find either at the rodeo clown show.
5. It is beyond time for cultures to take responsibility for changing the futures of their kids. Whether you are black, Native American, Ukrainian, etc. it is high time for those people to take ownership in the future of their kids. I have worked firsthand in a reservation environment, and it's heartbreaking to see the oppression of future opportunities that comes from their OWN people. It is heartbreaking that inner city youth turn to gang culture because it provides them the sense of family that they have never had. Why go to college when you can make money dealing drugs. How do you fix the economic oppression that is a reality? I've witnessed firsthand the struggles that some of these people encounter when they are trying to get their life right, and at every turn and every screw up the system just beats them down to a point of hopelessness.
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