It’s not just corner hopping…

[Treeshark]

Is it time to shift the discussion to NR hunters and Montana mule deer seasons?

It’s always time

 

[El Jason]

More likely time to think about shifting wasted money to long term access. But if that’s the way you want to take things I’m here for it.

I’m always a proponent of funding access.

 

[Deez Nutz]

Here’s yet another example

This confuses me further because the left parcel isn't state, its blm.

 

[Forkyfinder]

I’m always a proponent of funding access.

HB145 was a good one to get you to pay more - too bad some shithead lobbyists got in the way. Could have funded some more.

 

[El Jason]

HB145 was a good one to get you to pay more - too bad some shithead lobbyists got in the way. Could have funded some more.

Bless your heart…

How is your petition coming?

 

[Forkyfinder]

Bless your heart…

How is your petition coming?

Petition for what exactly?

 

[El Jason]

Petition for what exactly?

To get a citizens initiative to cut NR out of MT.

 

[Treeshark]

To get a citizens initiative to cut NR out of MT.

I heard it’s stuck in accounting.

 

[DFS]

To get a citizens initiative to cut NR out of MT.

Thread 'Reduction in number of NR deer licenses'

Dec 5, 2025

Am I missing something here? Are they really reducing NR deer licenses by 2500? I'd be okay if it was reduced by more but seems like a start anyway.

Montana reduces non-resident deer hunting licenses https://share.google/nuqKGPbmg6eBZ0UAw

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Since you brought it up. Hopefully the wins keep coming for the residents of the state. The bird hunting deal was great this year, hopefully we can keep up the momentum and get closer to a better balance.

 

[El Jason]

Thread 'Reduction in number of NR deer licenses'

Dec 5, 2025

Am I missing something here? Are they really reducing NR deer licenses by 2500? I'd be okay if it was reduced by more but seems like a start anyway.

Montana reduces non-resident deer hunting licenses https://share.google/nuqKGPbmg6eBZ0UAw

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Since you brought it up. Hopefully the wins keep coming for the residents of the state. The bird hunting deal was great this year, hopefully we can keep up the momentum and get closer to a better balance.

Whatever you guys feel will make it better. I sincerely wish you luck.

 

[El Jason]

I heard it’s stuck in accounting.

It’s easier to complain and fight on a keyboard than to get out and push for change. It hasn’t and is unlikely to ever make it to accounting.

 

[Bhoesl]

This confuses me further because the left parcel isn't state, its blm.

Correct

 

[SAJ-99]

By statute, most state lands exist primarily for the purpose generating revenue for the state to support public education. NOT primarily for the public's recreation. Subtle, but important, difference from federal lands and their charters.

I hunt some state land parcels in MT that mostly are open to recreational use (including hunting) - except when there’s active logging going on and they close them for recreational use. The state has that authority, and I would assume a similar authority for closing them for other reasons. I don’t love it, but I get it.

I’m generally okay with state land being enrolled in Block but on a case by case basis.

I keep going back to the picture on Forky's post #11. 71 ranch is not in BM. The state blocks look specifically exclude from the Bair Type 2 BMA. I also understand if someone paid to plant a crop or run cattle or active logging or whatever on the block, but even in those cases there is a $ payment and specific rules that often still allow hunting. Maybe because this is the Galts, it smells fishy. I can see where Montana residents would like a better explanation and maybe ask to see the receipts. Would it shock anyone if the Galts asked the "right" people for the BM map to be reflected that way?

 

[cgasner1]

To get a citizens initiative to cut NR out of MT.

I think that lobbyist is considered a resident at this point with the amount of time he spends living in some peoples heads

 

[Bighorner]

I’d like a couple more pages of this first. Maybe we could touch on how you’re not allowed to camp on state ground in Wyoming?

Civil disobedience.

 

[Frenchy]

This confuses me further because the left parcel isn't state, its blm.

If it isn't accessible from any other means, you need permission from an adjacent landowner to cross their land to get to the BLM. In a case like this, you might have permission to hunt the adjacent landowner's land via the Block Management, and not have the landowner's permission to access the BLM via their land.

 

[Elky Welky]

It’s easier to complain and fight on a keyboard than to get out and push for change. It hasn’t and is unlikely to ever make it to accounting.

It's made it far further than accounting, in large part because people with keyboards have been out pushing for change. In the 2023 legislative session a bill to cap NR tags (HB 525) (which was ultimately killed not on the merits but moved the needle) spurred the legislature to pass a study bill with the same title in 2025.

The link to information about that bill and how you can use your keyboard to push for change is right here:

Montana Hunters First Act (House Bill 568) | Montana FWP

The Montana Hunters First Act (House Bill 568) passed during the 2025 Montana legislative session. Governor Greg Gianforte signed it into law May 8, 2025. This “study bill” does not immediately change hunting seasons, license quotas, or resident/nonresident allocations. Instead, it directs...

fwp.mt.gov

 

[El Jason]

It's made it far further than accounting, in large part because people with keyboards have been out pushing for change. In the 2023 legislative session a bill to cap NR tags (HB 525) (which was ultimately killed not on the merits but moved the needle) spurred the legislature to pass a study bill with the same title in 2025.

I’m not taking about tweaking the cap. I’m talking about making mule deer hunting resident only like some folks think will solve the issues.

 

[DFS]

I’m not taking about tweaking the cap. I’m talking about making mule deer hunting resident only like some folks think will solve the issues.

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen anybody suggest that. I like to be a nonresident in other states but with the harvest stats in region 6 and 7 I thinking some tweaking is warranted.

 

[Treeshark]

In the 2023 legislative session a bill to cap NR tags (HB 525) (which was ultimately killed not on the merits but moved the needle) spurred the legislature to pass a study bill with the same title in 2025.

A study bill? It doesn’t seem like anything has even made it to accounting, perhaps I’m missing something.