Gianforte sides with Mega Ranchers/Outfitters

[brockel]

If someone drove an atv off-road on blm this place would chastise them for it. But landing an airplane off-road is just fine?

 

[Eric Albus]

Why include it the provision about two tracks then?

To be clear - the aerial craft went from different day to 24 hour requirement. When prince ali ababwa buys the sheep hunt tag - and flies the breaks - he is still going to shoot/hunt the next day or the following day.

Not many sheep left.

Is this new law a lessening of access opportunity? Serious question. I don’t fly to access hunting areas. I’m reading the significance of the change to be in the time between flying and hunting which I view as a good thing since it limits the amount of folks who fly open country at dusk to spot elk and then hunt them the next morning at daylight.

Am I missing something?

you’re not missing anything. One must look first under the bridge on a thread like this.

 

[Big Fin]

Not sure I understand what changes are being discussed here. I've flown into BLM land five times with a helicopter. The approved/licensed transporter I used, along with my film permit requirement, both required that I land on a two track. Hasn't that always been the case? Or has it only applied to "licensed transporters" and those operating under a film permit?

Sorry if I'm missing something.

 

[Forkyfinder]

I missed reading the bill - prior to backing up the OPs post. Did not do proper due diligence. I was wrong.

 

[Eric Albus]

Not sure I understand what changes are being discussed here. I've flown into BLM land five times with a helicopter. The approved/licensed transporter I used, along with my film permit requirement, both required that I land on a two track. Hasn't that always been the case? Or has it only applied to "licensed transporters" and those operating under a film permit?

Sorry if I'm missing something.

I voted for it, don’t must be good

 

[Meteetse Trail]

I voted for it, don’t must be good

Did some checking. If hunters want to hire a helicopter to land on BLM the pilot would need to check with the local office for approval. But he can land away from a two track. (middle of a large landlocked section for example), he can do so with permission from BLM. So, if you want to fly in for a drop off hunt, do some advance work with the pilot. Issue for the pilot is that he is making a few dollars from the permit.
A private helicopter for personal use has to land close to a two track road.

 

[cgasner1]

Did some checking. If hunters want to hire a helicopter to land on BLM the pilot would need to check with the local office for approval. But he can land away from a two track. (middle of a large landlocked section for example), he can do so with permission from BLM. So, if you want to fly in for a drop off hunt, do some advance work with the pilot. Issue for the pilot is that he is making a few dollars from the permit.
A private helicopter for personal use has to land close to a two track road.

Just throwing this out there but if I had the money for a helicopter and was trying to make money on flying people in I’d know exactly where I can land and can’t. It would be interesting to see someone’s opinion on this that actually owns and is “being effected”

 

[Meteetse Trail]

My interest is from years in Alaska, where you needed to fly in drop off, or charter out on boat. Either way was $$$$ to get there. Never a problem on where you were dropped. Not likely I will ever do that in Montana, given my age in life, but nice to know you can still get to hunt on landlocked land if you want to put out the $$$.

 

[cgasner1]

2 different states with different issues.

 

[MTTW]

Last I knew helicopters were not allowed for use in any way for hunting in AK.

So like was said above, different state, different rules.