Guide or resident needed for non resident to hunt in Wyoming.

[Sytes]

For the record what area do you apply for elk, deer, or pronghorn in Wyoming?

Hunted and enjoyed the hell out of the Bridger-Teton North and southside of Blackrock.

I've spent multiple seasons leading a collective of college kids on cross cut clearing of trails until their seasonal contract expired then routed over to inspecting outfitter and private camps for griz compliance as a whooping GS-5 in the Bridger-Teton Wilderness via horseback routes with my partner. Bringing tard USFS big wigs into Hawks Rest... I'm sure you know (of) Jack Hatch? One of the greatest horse people I've known.
Seven days in, three days off. It was fan-flippin-tastic!
John Lee and his outfitter camp - had some great breakfasts while inspecting their camp. Had to serve summons to people to meet with the District Ranger - It was a blast. Then life settles in and age kicks it's tail.
Routes in/out from YNP/GTNP, Turpin Meadows, Pacific, Togwotee Pass, even through Absaroka than most Wyoming residents have stepped foot on wilderness land.
Worked/lived at the Moran Blackrock Ranger Station under District Ranger Rob St. John.
Winter Snowmobile patrol of the bordering Wilderness and Southside of Blackrock. Routing biologists into locations.

Age, life pushed me out of the Wilderness work - though, I believe it's clear I have no qualms about getting into the Bob, Cabinets, Pintlers w/ and w/o horse, packing out game, etc.

Maybe something worth proposing... reciprocal agreements between states. You offer, we offer - you don't, we don't.

 

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[Treeshark]

Attention-seeking

You don’t say, Mr William Christy…

 

[BuzzH]

Hunted and enjoyed the hell out of the Bridger-Teton North and southside of Blackrock.

I've spent multiple seasons leading a collective of college kids on cross cut clearing of trails until their seasonal contract expired then routed over to inspecting outfitter and private camps for griz compliance as a whooping GS-5 in the Bridger-Teton Wilderness via horseback routes with my partner. Bringing tard USFS big wigs into Hawks Rest... I'm sure you know (of) Jack Hatch? One of the greatest horse people I've known.
Seven days in, three days off. It was fan-flippin-tastic!
John Lee and his outfitter camp - had some great breakfasts while inspecting their camp. Had to serve summons to people to meet with the District Ranger - It was a blast. Then life settles in and age kicks it's tail.
Routes in/out from YNP/GTNP, Turpin Meadows, Pacific, Togwotee Pass, even through Absaroka than most Wyoming residents have stepped foot on wilderness land.
Worked/lived at the Moran Blackrock Ranger Station under District Ranger Rob St. John.
Winter Snowmobile patrol of the bordering Wilderness and Southside of Blackrock. Routing biologists into locations.

Age, life pushed me out of the Wilderness work - though, I believe it's clear I have no qualms about getting into the Bob, Cabinets, Pintlers w/ and w/o horse, packing out game, etc.

Maybe something worth proposing... reciprocal agreements between states. You offer, we offer - you don't, we don't.

That wasn't the question. Just curious what tags you applied/apply for in Wyoming.

Yes, I know Jack Hatch. Last time I talked with him, he mentioned killing elk right behind blackrock, outside the wilderness.

 

[rjthehunter]

I was thinking about this last night. Another reason I could see it being in place is not for the people but the animals. Really need some guy on his first big game hunt killing a bull 5-6 miles back into a wilderness and having no clue what to do once it hits the dirt.

I doubt many first time hunters travel 5-6 miles back in to the wilderness...

Aren’t NRs allowed to hunt bison in wilderness areas in WY though?

Pointing out the irony in the rules doesn't work here... They just ignore it! Great point though.

 

[cgasner1]

I doubt many first time hunters travel 5-6 miles back in to the wilderness...


Pointing out the irony in the rules doesn't work here... They just ignore it! Great point though.

Looked good on google earth

 

[sclancy27]

I'd love to see other states apply similar restrictions on WY residents until they put pressure on their own state to remove the stupid regulations.

New rule in MT, Wyoming residents are only allowed to hunt within 2 miles of a road...

It makes 0 sense. You can backpack through the wilderness, but no hunting. It's public land right? It seems odd that they can even place such a ridiculous law...

I'm pretty sure almost everyone is already following that rule.

 

[Straight Arrow]

Looked good on google earth

'Til you actually had to hike over Ishawooa Pass down to your hunt up Pass Creek.

 

[cgasner1]

I'm pretty sure almost everyone is already following that rule.

I bet it would surprise you how many people never loose sight of the truck

 

[sclancy27]

I bet it would surprise you how many people never loose sight leave the seat of the truck

Fixed it for you

 

[BigHornRam]

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[Deleted member 16014]

…Jack Hatch…

LOL. Perhaps the person on earth least likely to care about your grumpy attitude.

 

[BuzzH]

I doubt many first time hunters travel 5-6 miles back in to the wilderness...


Pointing out the irony in the rules doesn't work here... They just ignore it! Great point though.

Not doing your research would allow you to recognize that at the time the wilderness guide law passed there was no bison hunting allowed in Wyoming.

Upon further investigation and research, you would recognize that bison are not classified as big or trophy game in the State of Wyoming.

That's the only real irony to your statement.

 

[Treeshark]

Bison are being discussed to refute the notion that the wilderness rule is necessary because “elk are big.”

But you knew that, Buzz

 

[BuzzH]

Bison are being discussed to refute the notion that the wilderness rule is necessary because “elk are big.”

But you knew that, Buzz

A fawn mule deer isn't big, animal size has exactly zero to do with the guide law.

You don't have to retain any meat at all from lions, bears, and wolves either.

 

[Treeshark]

A fawn mule deer isn't big, animal size has exactly zero to do with the guide law.

You don't have to retain any meat at all from lions, bears, and wolves either.

Yep. That was exactly my point.

You do from bison though, so here we are back to where we started

 

[Sytes]

That wasn't the question. Just curious what tags you applied/apply for in Wyoming.

Yes, I know Jack Hatch. Last time I talked with him, he mentioned killing elk right behind blackrock, outside the wilderness.

That's where he sent me one occasion. Great areas and brook trout ponds.
He's no bull, I had the opportunity to cover for him while he took vacation. I was scared chitless to manage "his" stock while he was gone.

Regarding your question, that is where I would go. Bridger-Teton Wilderness.

 

[BuzzH]

Yep. That was exactly my point.

You do from bison though, so here we are back to where we started

Not really, the fact hasn't changed that it was an outfitter bill, to benefit the outfitting industry.

Period.

 

[BuzzH]

That's where he sent me one occasion. Great areas and brook trout ponds.
He's no bull, I had the opportunity to cover for him while he took vacation. I was scared chitless to manage "his" stock while he was gone.

Regarding your question, that is where I would go. Bridger-Teton Wilderness.

But for the fact you don't even apply for tags here.

 

[Treeshark]

Not really, the fact hasn't changed that it was an outfitter bill, to benefit the outfitting industry.

Period.

Sounds good big baller… still undefeated