Griz gun?

[Hof]

I currently carry a Colt .357 Mag during bow season.... I have been getting the itch to switch to an auto, no real reason I guess except the weight and a reason to get a new toy. I am pretty sure I want the Glock 20 in 10mm, after looking at the ballistics this thing is a cannon! Some of the reviews say that the only reason it is not more popular is because of the recoil. I am not a small guy and I am sure I can handle it but I was just wondering if anyone else has any experience with this or other 10mm pistols.

Looks like with a little practice this could be a very effective Griz stopper and maybe a deer gun on occasion. 1300 fps w/ 180's.... way more umph than a 45acp.

What do you all think?

 

[bjtc_brian]

I totally agree. I have a good friend who has exactly one of those. I personally think they have less recoil than the 45acp's that I have shot. And way, way less than a .357 Mag! I am on the hunt for one also! Great gun and caliber in my opinion.

 

[noharleyyet]

Good rationale for a new pistol but I still like a wheel for quick use.

 

[Hof]

I love my colt.... but that thing is a brick. I thought it would be a cold day before I bought a plastic gun, but I think it is starting to cool off! haha

Putting on lots of miles might be a little more enjoyable with this lightweight cannon in a tac holster on my thigh.

 

[Ben Lamb]

Good rationale for a new pistol but I still like a wheel for quick use.

This.

You're gonna have one or two shots at most at a Grizz. Give me a heavy bullet with a wide meplat going around 1200 FPS.

The Glock looks like it would be a great carry gun in the woods though.

 

[Goldtip]

For me the term "griz gun" and semi auto are simply contradictory in nature. Semi-auto's just won't handle the loads that would truly be needed to turn a grizzly in a full on charge with one or maybe if lucky two hits. Certainly the Glock 20 packs a punch, but the variable in the woods which can affect the performance of a semi-auto pistol, those same things just don't affect a wheel gun. If using it for self defense from a grizzly charge, thats the last possible moment you need to have a round stovepipe, or faily to fully eject or simply not feed. None of these problems apply to a wheel gun. Just my .02cents.

 

[Dave N]

Have to agree. A wheel gun will almost always go boom and it seems to me that you would need all you can get if something that can eat you is coming in a hurry. If you really want a new gun go ahead and pick up a .44 or even a .500! A shorter barrel cuts some weight and after the first few times of having it on your hip you won't notice it's there.

 

[HSi-ESi]

I'll second (or third) the use of a revolver - wide meplat and packing some punch - in terms of a Griz gun.

Both my Brother and Dad have a Glock 20 in 10 mm. It is fun to shoot, not super accurate but it's not bad (out to 25-30 yards or so). They carry well and they are pretty forgiving on brands of ammo. I've probably only put in 500 rounds between the 2 guns and haven't had jamming issues. I don't think it kicks any more than my Kimber in .45 ACP.

I'm not a huge Glock fan though, the angle of the grip compared to the barrel makes me have to think/adjust. I'm just too used to the 1911 frame.

 

[Carrion Carrier]

Don't kill a bluff charging grizzly bear. Spray it with bear spray and hope for the best. Lightweight and cheap.

 

[spook12]

I guess I'm in the minority on this one.
I'm not gonna speak for anyone else but I know for a fact that I can put twice as many rounds on target with a large bore semi than I can with a large bore wheel gun.
You might want to give some thought to a carry system that puts it up around your waist. A thigh holster is fine for a backup weapon but not for a primary. Also not real comfortable if you're covering a lot of ground.

 

[CabinFever]

Spray will always be my first option while I'm on my feet, but I did pick up a Glock 20 that will come with on backpacking trips in thick bear country only for protection around camp and while in my tent. Other than that its only a backup to my spray, which I sometimes carry 2 bottles of spray instead of a gun, so the lighter semi-auto option was it for me.

 

[Hof]

the reason for the thigh holster is so that I can access it all the time. When I have my pack on, anything on my waist is pretty much covered or difficult to access. I have carried the .357 on the hip many times but I never felt real sure I could get to it very quickly if I have my pack on. With the bino harness/ rangefinder on my chest and waist covered with the pack the thigh seems like the best place for it. I also have a bear spray canister on the strap of my pack.

As mentioned this is not really a "NEED" just trying to justify an auto. I have two revolvers but dont own an auto. I guess I did not realize that there was that much concern with reliability. The times I have used them they have seemed well built and have not had an issue.

 

[spook12]

JMO but the ''concern with reliability '' is based on the notion of failure and not fact.
The Glock has been around a long time and while there are real reasons that a guy would rather carry something else, the fact is they are reliable as hell.

 

[dustinf]

Good rationale for a new pistol but I still like a wheel for quick use.

This.

I'm taking my Taurus .357 that I've been shooting since I was 21.

Bear spray is my first option, the gun is so I can sleep at night.

 

[Hof]

So just for fun lets take the word Auto out of the equation. .357 Mag or 10mm to carry in bear country? 10mm seems to have the edge from what I see as far as fps/ knockdown.

 

[dustinf]

One of my favorite features of the Outdoorsmans pack, the waist belt can easily used with accessory pouches or holsters. One clip, and I can move my holsters to my daypack or pants belt.

 

[Ben Lamb]

Another thing to consider with the Glock is lead bullets and the polygonal rifling Glock uses aren't reccomended.

If you can find a load that uses jacketed or,plated bullets that have a wide meplat, then it comes down to reliability. Never had a FTF or FTE with a Glock.

 

[Hof]

I have the ability to put the pistol on my pack as well. I leave the bear spray attached to the pack for use if I am moving. I like the idea of having the pistol with me on stalks and when I am calling. One of the guys that hunts by us called in a Griz 2 years ago and couldnt reach the spray on his pack... no sidearm and luckily the bear walked off. Hopefully I never need any of this stuff but I have seen way too many griz in the last few years to not at least be prepared.

I will load my own ammo so I should be able to make whatever.... ammo should not be an issue once I get my hands on some brass.

 

[spook12]

So just for fun lets take the word Auto out of the equation. .357 Mag or 10mm to carry in bear country? 10mm seems to have the edge from what I see as far as fps/ knockdown.

I understand what you're saying but the platform matters and it matters alot.
Your in a tent, its dark Mr Grizz is coming through the side.Do you want a can of UDAP, 6 rounds of .357 or a dozen rounds of 10mm?

 

[Deleted member 20812]

Glocks are incredibly reliable. If they don't work, it's usually a recoil spring and/ or magazine spring. I trust my life everyday to a Glock, with no worries whatsoever.

Ben is right, don't shoot lead bullets in a Glock.