Do Nonresidents have a reasonable chance of drawing Bison, Moose, Sheep, or Goat tags

[matechakeric]

in the lower 48 without going through an outfitter in less than 25-30 years of point building or applying?

 

[rwc101]

1. Define "reasonable."
2. No.

 

[matechakeric]

1. Define "reasonable."
2. No.

i guess if you were to points build/apply for 40 years, could you expect to have drawn a tag for something?

 

[fishing4sanity]

It depends rather you're as optimistic as Lloyd or not?

However, if you don't apply then you already have your answer. There are states that don't build points, but it's still a very low odds game.

 

[rwc101]

i guess if you were to points build/apply for 40 years, could you expect to have drawn a tag for something?

40 years, sure. Hope you're still in high school and the lizard people haven't taken over by then.

 

[matechakeric]

40 years, sure. Hope you're still in high school and the lizard people haven't taken over by then.

haha I'm not. I'm in my 30s so if I ever drew up, i doubt I'd have the legs to handle such a tag

seems like Alaska may have better odds than the lower 48 for certain species but would require a guide or resident

 

[Trial153]

No

 

[mtmuley]

I'm a Montana resident maxed out and I don't have a reasonable chance to draw. mtmuley

 

[Carnage2011]

I’d say goat is reasonable. Sheep and moose not so much.

 

[Bluffgruff]

Your odds as a nonresident will be in the single digits over your lifetime in a given state for a given species, with few exceptions, and with point schemes, your odds get worse, not better, being on the bottom of the pile.

I agree with the Lloyd Christmas analogy, though.

 

[tjones]

46 years on resident MT sheep and a few less than that on goat. Nothing but air.

Not sure if that’s reasonable.

 

[Addicting]

I leave MI to hunt moose in Colorado in 4 days. I’ve been applying for 4 years.

 

[mtmuley]

I leave MI to hunt moose in Colorado in 4 days. I’ve been applying for 4 years.

Bull tag? mtmuley

 

[Bigjay73]

I leave MI to hunt moose in Colorado in 4 days. I’ve been applying for 4 years.

Congrats, but you do know that you're an extreme exception.

 

[brownbear932008]

Super low odds and in several States the odds are practically zero chance. So really it depends if your talking about a preference point State that ship sailed long ago unless they change the systems. Bonus point States still very slim chance but a chance. Most of these States have thousands of applicants with 20 years invested and tag numbers seem to decrease each year for most States.
My advice is save your bucks and go guided in Canada or AK.

 

[Oak]

The odds are terrible...not sure what you think is reasonable. There are clearly ways to improve your odds.

A non-resident of Colorado could possibly hunt the females of all the species excluding bison in a 5 year time span. Just something to think about. The goat would take a little luck, but moose and sheep would be easy.

 

[SummitsCalling]

If you are not close to being a top point holder you are throwing money away imo.

 

[TheGrayRider]

Better investments with your hard-earned money are hookers, bottom shelf grain alcohols, used vehicles, casino buffets, and illegal street drugs, but hell “There’s always a chance”.

 

[dgc1963]

Idaho isnt a point system so I apply their a 10% RN cap makes the odds still small been trying to get a tag abt 10yrs no luck yet
and send donations to quite a few raffles every yr still small odds but the $ goes to a great cause

 

[Addicting]

Bull tag? mtmuley

Cow, but that wasn’t part of his question.

Congrats, but you do know that you're an extreme exception.

Nope, I drew it on points.