Cats Aren't Trophies

[Big Fin]

This thread is way more important than the personal spats and normal off-season rants. Keep it in topic.

 

[Coveyleader]

After speaking and listening to Dan this weekend, there is a light at the end of the tunnel on this, we just need to get there. He was very positive and has a lot of momentum at this moment. I’m going to steal a phrase from Cam Hanes, “We need to keep hammering.”

 

[TOGIE]

56 dollars in app fees this morning. so that's 56 more dollars to CRWM

 

[TOGIE]

if you haven't had a fire lit under your ass yet to give money to CRWM here's some spark and tinder:

Carole Baskin brings her celebrity to Colorado to ban trophy hunting

Carole Baskin joined Channel 2 for an exclusive conversation about the push for a new ballot measure in Colorado.

kdvr.com

 

[Hnthrdr]

Also as an inside man with CATS… this “grass roots” movement has paid for signature gatherers out there now, since it was apparent they were not going to hit the signature goal organically. How commie, errr I mean grass roots of them…

 

[Sytes]

Colorado ‘Ballot Box Biology’ Measure Called Out for Deception

Every victory counts in the fight against “ballot box biology,” and this is one of them. The Colorado Title Board agreed with the Rocky Mountain [...]

www.rockymountainelkfoundation.org

 

[Hnthrdr]

if you haven't had a fire lit under your ass yet to give money to CRWM here's some spark and tinder:

Carole Baskin brings her celebrity to Colorado to ban trophy hunting

Carole Baskin joined Channel 2 for an exclusive conversation about the push for a new ballot measure in Colorado.

kdvr.com

Honestly I think the Carole baskin thing hurts those wing nuts in the long run… I think most Joe schmoes associate her negatively… anytime she is mentioned is “that bitch Carole baskin”

 

[npaden]

FYI, when I was in Colorado Springs for work a couple weeks ago I got some placed ads from Coloradans for responsible wildlife management surfing Facebook on the hotel WiFi.

The ads were good, I was surprised by some of the comments. I think some people were thinking they were for the initiative instead of against it. Some smoke a pack a day type comments.

 

[WildWill]

if you haven't had a fire lit under your ass yet to give money to CRWM here's some spark and tinder:

Carole Baskin brings her celebrity to Colorado to ban trophy hunting

Carole Baskin joined Channel 2 for an exclusive conversation about the push for a new ballot measure in Colorado.

kdvr.com

Oh that definitely earned another donation. Can't stand that lady!

 

[grasshopper]

Honestly I think the Carole baskin thing hurts those wing nuts in the long run… I think most Joe schmoes associate her negatively… anytime she is mentioned is “that bitch Carole baskin”

I have never seen or heard Carole Baskin, but never forget we are talking about denver, Boulder, and Fort collins voters. Logical talking points don't matter, emotion will to them.

 

[bayoublaster7527]

Also as an inside man with CATS… this “grass roots” movement has paid for signature gatherers out there now, since it was apparent they were not going to hit the signature goal organically. How commie, errr I mean grass roots of them…

Yep. This was never a “grassroots” movement. CATS brought in Samantha Miller Bruegger, former executive director of Washington Wildlife First, after her success in eliminating spring bear hunting and flipping the Washington Wildlife Commission to an anti-hunting majority. The major proponent is Animal Wellness Action/Center for a Humane Economy, a national organization that has targeted Colorado and Washington for anti-hunting initiatives within their national campaign. They were founded by Wayne Pacelle, disgraced former CEO of Humane Society.

Good reminder to make another donation to CRWM.

 

[Hnthrdr]

Yep. This was never a “grassroots” movement. CATS brought in Samantha Miller Bruegger, former executive director of Washington Wildlife First, after her success in eliminating spring bear hunting and flipping the Washington Wildlife Commission to an anti-hunting majority. The major proponent is Animal Wellness Action/Center for a Humane Economy, a national organization that has targeted Colorado and Washington for anti-hunting initiatives within their national campaign. They were founded by Wayne Pacelle, disgraced former CEO of Humane Society.

Good reminder to make another donation to CRWM.

Yep she is the worst

 

[Treeshark]

Do you see me on every @Treeshark (or other wisconsinite) thread bitching about NR opportunity in WI? No...

I have a thread?

 

[Deleted member 52098]

I have a thread?

No not specifically… you were the first Wisco HTer I could think of

 

[Treeshark]

Understandable. I can’t help myself but to get excited when NRs come here to enjoy hunting or fishing (or just having fun in other ways). I try to always go out of my way to be welcoming.

I’m sure you can relate

@Oak, @TOGIE , @TheGreek, @MtnElk: please consider causes like this in the future when discussing things like 90/10.

We are better off taking things like this on together, and that type of initiative chases NR support away.

 

[TOGIE]

Understandable. I can’t help myself but to get excited when NRs come here to enjoy hunting or fishing (or just having fun in other ways). I try to always go out of my way to be welcoming.

I’m sure you can relate

@Oak, @TOGIE , @TheGreek, @MtnElk: please consider causes like this in the future when discussing things like 90/10.

We are better off taking things like this on together, and that type of initiative chases NR support away.

who cares about 90/10 with this stuff.

carole baskin wins it becomes 0/0 and then it dominoes to other states and species

you can choose to fight or not

 

[Treeshark]

who cares about 90/10 with this stuff.

Many people, as they should.

You can’t just uncouple the two only when convenient, it doesn’t work that way.

 

[Treeshark]

carole baskin wins it becomes 0/0 and then it dominoes to other states and species

Perhaps. That’s why it is shortsighted to wish away advocates in my opinion.

 

[TOGIE]

Many people, as they should.

You can’t just uncouple the two only when convenient, it doesn’t work that way.

i'm not uncoupling them. still hoping for tighter allocations someday.

this is about hunters fighting to maintain their legacy and privilege and it ultimately affects everyone everywhere. if people don't care that much then they don't care that much and that's one thing, but not being able to set aside or purposefully not setting aside an allocation discussion over it shows true colors IMO.

in the end i just. don't. care. about these types of allocation discussions anymore. you do you and i'm gonna keep giving money to crwm - i'll give 50 bucks on your behalf if that helps

 

[WYelker]

i'm not uncoupling them. still hoping for tighter allocations someday.

this is about hunters fighting to maintain their legacy and privilege and it ultimately affects everyone everywhere. if people don't care that much then they don't care that much and that's one thing, but not being able to set aside or purposefully not setting aside an allocation discussion over it shows true colors IMO.

in the end i just. don't. care. about these types of allocation discussions anymore. you do you and i'm gonna keep giving money to crwm - i'll give 50 bucks on your behalf if that helps

Exactly, the NR better care way more about the current Ballot Box stuff way more than they should care about allocations. In one hand with 90/10 they are still guaranteed tags and the more animals on the land the more tags they get... If we reduce the herds by 50% or more with predators then the tag allocations will be cut for all. The more the resident opportunity gets cut the less NR will have. It is a snowball effect that many are ignoring...