Bulldozers at Big Bend

[Wildabeest]

In terms of illegal immigration?

In terms of our public lands, among others.

 

[Nick87]

In terms of our public lands, among others.

Not really what I asked, wasn't what @schmalts was referring to either. ( at least not the way I interpreted it).

 

[El Jason]

Not to further derail the conversation, but I’m highly worried about the national debt and the level of military readiness.

 

[Nick87]

Not to further derail the conversation, but I’m highly worried about the national debt and the level of military readiness.

Who wouldn't be. Not just now but for a long time?

 

[El Jason]

Who wouldn't be. Not just now but for a long time?

Apparently the POTUS.

 

[Wildabeest]

Not really what I asked, wasn't what @schmalts was referring to either. ( at least not the way I interpreted it).

The way I read it, he was blaming Biden for Trump’s administration running roughshod over a national park with heavy equipment. I also read it that he was saying the need for the wall was Biden’s fault when we all know Trump was screaming from the rooftops about that wall long before Biden was president. But, yeah, everything is Biden’s fault. I get it.

 

[schmalts]

The way I read it, he was blaming Biden for Trump’s administration running roughshod over a national park with heavy equipment. I also read it that he was saying the need for the wall was Biden’s fault when we all know Trump was screaming from the rooftops about that wall long before Biden was president. But, yeah, everything is Biden’s fault. I get it.

Well if illegal immigration was at the current numbers during Biden's term would there be as much reason to worry about the next President that does the same as Biden? My opinion, we only need a wall if there's a guy like Biden in office. Right now we don't need one but the current guy in office is gone soon. And for clarification, is this bulldozer running through the "middle of a national Park" as the media portrays it or is on the border? If it's on the nation's border it's really a bit of a stretch to say it's going through anything, because it's really on the boundary of it. I don't know, haven't been there but I'm leery of most news. Hell 6 or 7 years ago The border patrol was whipping men from Haiti on horseback, remember that? I'm not saying I like to see a wall through a park, but it's a shame reason has been given to justify one in the first place.

 

[Nick87]

The way I read it, he was blaming Biden for Trump’s administration running roughshod over a national park with heavy equipment. I also read it that he was saying the need for the wall was Biden’s fault when we all know Trump was screaming from the rooftops about that wall long before Biden was president. But, yeah, everything is Biden’s fault. I get it.

The way I read it was, if every past administration would have enforced immigration laws, it wouldn't have given Trump the immigration platform to run on in the first place, which iirc was one of the biggest issue voters said determined the election on 2024. I dont think anything was bidens fault due to the fact he personally wasn't really of charge of anything. However the blame the last guy is nothing new unless you have a really bad short term memory. What do i know though I'm not a HT expert like some here, just a simpleton who thinks both sides are a bunch of pedos and thieves. Time to go fishing, have a good one.

 

[Irrelevant]

Is a 30' wall through Big Bend NP what you want? Is it going to solve the problem?

And is it worth the costs?

What amount of costs would it not be worth it anymore?

 

[schmalts]

Is a 30' wall through Big Bend NP what you want? Is it going to solve the problem?

And is it worth the costs?

What amount of costs would it not be worth it anymore?

There it is again..... Is it going through the park or on the border. Details matter. I don't know why or where they would put a wall other than on the border, and that wouldn't be through the park, it would be on the boundary of it.

 

[WildWill]

There it is again..... Is it going through the park or on the border. Details matter. I don't know why or where they would put a wall other than on the border, and that wouldn't be through the park, it would be on the boundary of it.

The entire southern border of Big Bend NP is the Rio Grande. Unless they put the wall down the middle of the river it'll absolutely run through the park. With the geography in that park especially the bluffs along the river a wall is completely unnecessary for border enforcement and not what I want my taxes spent on. I'm all for strict immigration enforcement and agree with you on the failings of the previous administration in that department.

 

[INMT]

There it is again..... Is it going through the park or on the border. Details matter. I don't know why or where they would put a wall other than on the border, and that wouldn't be through the park, it would be on the boundary of it.

Maybe a philosophy major you are? Semantics you seem to like.

A 30’ border wall through or on the border of a national park or wilderness area or a wildlife management area makes a huge difference in how an area is managed or how wildlife migrates. Whether it “goes through the middle.”

Visited one have you ever?

 

[Redmt]

Well it’s obvious.

They have the bulldozer there to rescue the surveyors when they get lost.

When the surveyors get lost they often times pound a stake in the ground and the bulldozer typically shows up within 37 seconds and runs it over.

Some people (surveyors) might get that joke. lol

I've worked with a couple survey crews in the past that cover a couple miles in heavy brush. I've cleared lots of paths down property lines. I had one crew that pushed probably a mile down hill into a canyon through VERY heavy brush and couldn't get back through it back uphill. It was kinda fun taking a dozer in to get them back out.

 

[Justabirdwatcher]

There it is again..... Is it going through the park or on the border. Details matter. I don't know why or where they would put a wall other than on the border, and that wouldn't be through the park, it would be on the boundary of it.

Not sure if you've ever been there (sounds like no) but the border is the most visited and scenic part of that NP.

What I find ironic is that the maga crowd is always crying about local rule and let conservative judges/LEO handle things, and yet in this specific case the local - conservative - sheriff and judges have spoken out against this action repeatedly. Even the maga sycophant governor has finally spoken against it. So I guess it's only when it's their back yard that the maga crowd wants local control. LOL such hypocrites.

 

[ODarrow]

Just sad.

 

[twraska]

All I can say is….. I can tell most of the replies were by people living in parts of this great country that don’t have to deal with the consequences of being overrun with illegal aliens on a daily basis. Here we are having to pay dearly for this invasion, from putting up with the criminals that come along to having to provide their healthcare via them using our hospitals emergency rooms and not paying, leaving the costs passed on to us. Walk into the county hospital and you will understand the healthcare I’m speaking of. They come to the ER for a cold, headache or stubbed toe. They get looked at, treated and sent home but never pay, just using ER as a doctor visit.

 

[Redmt]

All I can say is….. I can tell most of the replies were by people living in parts of this great country that don’t have to deal with the consequences of being overrun with illegal aliens on a daily basis. Here we are having to pay dearly for this invasion, from putting up with the criminals that come along to having to provide their healthcare via them using our hospitals emergency rooms and not paying, leaving the costs passed on to us. Walk into the county hospital and you will understand the healthcare I’m speaking of. They come to the ER for a cold, headache or stubbed toe. They get looked at, treated and sent home but never pay, just using ER as a doctor visit.

Curious as to where you're referring to? Here in newsom land, illegals are welcomed and protected. They are paid and treated better than the states residents.

 

[elkduds]

All I can say is….. I can tell most of the replies were by people living in parts of this great country that don’t have to deal with the consequences of being overrun with illegal aliens on a daily basis. Here we are having to pay dearly for this invasion, from putting up with the criminals that come along to having to provide their healthcare via them using our hospitals emergency rooms and not paying, leaving the costs passed on to us. Walk into the county hospital and you will understand the healthcare I’m speaking of. They come to the ER for a cold, headache or stubbed toe. They get looked at, treated and sent home but never pay, just using ER as a doctor visit.

Your prez said he fixed this. He wouldn't lie, correct?