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By Charlie Meyers
Denver Post Outdoors Editor
Article Published: Sunday, February 06, 2005

From a certain philosophical vantage point looking down on this broad sweep of the Blue River, the proposal looks like just another of those garden-variety exchanges federal land agencies periodically make as an article of good housekeeping. You know the kind. Bureau of Land Management swaps isolated parcels to private landowner for more manageable holdings elsewhere. Net result: a more tidy property map, fewer headaches and, presumably, a more satisfied public.

But that's where this view of the Blue changes, where this place that BLM is pondering divestment of two key public-access tracts on a major trout stream becomes clouded in a bureaucratic haze comprised of suspicion and mistrust.

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The earlier exchange of similar property was completed in 1999, just in time for the ranch to start pressing for the current trade. This information proved one of the few useful tidbits gleaned from a telephone interview with Susan Cassel, realty specialist with the BLM district office in nearby Kremmling.

Asked certain simple facts about the matter, Cassel became increasingly defensive and vague over a recommendation that has been made into a formal document and sent to BLM headquarters in Washington, D.C., for further review.

Pressed for details of this public record, Cassel said, "It's in a proposal stage. I can't say what we get and what we won't."

Questioned further about the parcels involved, Cassel replied, "I can't say. I have other things with this job that take my time."

Such a contrary attitude on the part of a key public official pretty much covers the mistrust part.

Information from other sources reveals that the two bookend BLM tracts, each about a quarter-mile long, bracket the Blue Valley Ranch river property. The upper segment on the east side of the stream is landlocked, accessible only by floating the river.

The downstream parcel, on the west, can be reached from foot off the so-called Trough Road.

As land goes, these plots don't exactly jump off the map. But as the real estate industry keeps telling us, it's all about the location. Therein lies a tale.

The Blue Valley property - best guesses put the size at about 30,000 acres - commands a major part of the Blue River where it flows between Green Mountain Reservoir and its confluence with the Colorado River.

With his associates, Jones manages the ranch in part for guests who pay handsomely to fish for large trout planted there. Some of the fish occasionally stray to this public access, where they can be caught by the great unwashed.

But that's just the start. What nettles Jones most is that these parcels serve as way stations for rafters who launch at the Bureau of Reclamation site below Green Mountain Dam. The ongoing feud between ranch and rafters is well documented in Grand County law enforcement files. Accusation of overzealous prosecution of trespassers abound, claims given weight by the fact that the ranch employs law enforcement officers who moonlight as off-duty patrolmen.

By swapping out these vexing access points, Jones eliminates these rest stops and turns the float into a roughly 15-mile marathon.

With every barter, some value must be given. The ranch proposes to acquire and transfer title to a parcel along the east bank of the Blue where it joins the Colorado. But this worth must be gauged against the fact that the current owner, Jim Yust, has allowed public fishing all along. Further, anglers classify this as "frog water," too slow moving to rank as a prime fishery.

As another carrot, Jones would provide a more advantageous walk-in point to the downstream end of the 3-mile- long Bureau of Reclamation property below the dam.

BLM also would receive a tract off County Road 1 considerably west of the river suitable for big-game habitat. Cassel again declined to give details about this property, but, as one observer put it, "We've got lots more places for big game than for good trout fishing. Once that river access is gone, it's never coming back."

Under the review process, a team in Washington will examine the proposal and, if approved, send it back to Kremmling to begin an Environmental Impact Statement process and public comment period.

Here's where things get really interesting. BLM procedure provides that the proponent, Blue Valley Ranch, commissions and pays for the EIS, a bought-and-paid-for process that casts further skepticism on the equilibrium of the system. Further, angler Kevin Williams reports that on an autumn visit to one of the BLM sites, he encountered an archeologist conducting a study.

Williams said when asked whom he worked for, the man replied, "Mr. Jones." A wary observer might suspect a certain unnatural confidence on the part of the proponent, considering that the formal EIS process remains many months away.

Whether this deal already is cut and dried remains to be seen. What's more certain is that it well may stand as a litmus of BLM's resolve when it comes to a balance between power and influence vs. the public good.

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The Dubya administration once again lying to the Public, and even worse, removing hunting and fishing access. Dubya's legacy will be removing opportunity for hunting and fishing for all future generations.
 
feclnogn, that's funny! Somebody voted for a loser and they are unhappy about it.
 
Greenhorn said:
feclnogn, that's funny! Somebody voted for a loser and they are unhappy about it.

Hey Greenhorn,

Weren't you the one whining about "yuppie starter castles" and how they were depriving you of hunting areas, winter range for the Cheeto-fed elk, and other opportunities for your son to hunt?

So you are good with the BLM trading 2 access spots on a blue ribbon trout stream for some slack water stagnant "frog water"?

Hopefully you son doesn't care to spend to much time hunting and fishing on public lands...... :eek:
 
I'm surprised some of you posters don't seem to care about the hunting and fishing public losing more access to good public land. You really have to be dumb not to be aware of the way the public has been getting screwed on some of these land trades.

fecl's attempt to make a joke out of the issue is indicative of the general public's apathy. Some people might laugh at it at first, but think about the results for hunters and fishermen when this type of trade is allowed and you just might be smart enough to realize who's getting screwed. Here's a hint: it's not the developer.

Maybe someday when fecl and a few others lose some favorite hunting and fishing spots in a government land trade they'll wake up, but more likely they be clueless about what happened.
 
Ithaca, You may be misinterpreting the responses here. I doubt most are for "not caring" or being "dumb" about a loss of good access. Could have been at feclnogn's classy response to another one of EG's typical "blame Dubya for everything" responses.
 
I'd like to know who everyone thinks is responsible for this type of "deal" for the public.

Last I checked GW is responsible for choosing Gale Norton to head up the D.O.I who over-sees the BLM.

I think if GW is the "sportsmens" president, he'd rein in his girl leading the D.O.I. and his BLM director, as I dont see how ANYONE could see this as a positive for the public. The very least the "sportmens" president should do is give the BLM director and Ms. Norton a demotion for even entertaining this type of BS.

This administration is an absolute joke as far as showing any degree of caring for sportsmen or the environment.
 
Greenhorn said:
Ithaca, You may be misinterpreting the responses here. I doubt most are for "not caring" or being "dumb" about a loss of good access. Could have been at feclnogn's classy response to another one of EG's typical "blame Dubya for everything" responses.

Greenhorn,

Since you don't seem to think Dubya is to blame for this land trade that removes fishing access to a quality river, who would you blame? Are you aware of somebody else that is in charge of the Executive Branch?

How much hunting and fishing access are you willing to tolerate Dubya removing to trade with back East Millionaires (Billionaires in this case)? At what point would you actually give a shit enough to realize the lunacy of Dubya's policies toward Public Lands?
 
Ithaca we all care about these issues....But maybe The Gunner cries wolf [in this case Dubya] just a little too often. Gunner i`m not saying you are wrong on this particular thread... But you blame Bush for everything... [economy,Grand Canyon pollution etc.] When you blame him for things that he had/has no control over...it clouds the issues that he is responsible for. Anyway that was some funny stuff that Fecl posted. just my 2 cents. :)
 
Gummer, Who's saying this wasn't a bad deal? You seem to spend all your time on the internet just looking to creating an arguement with people you assume want to argue with you.

Also, you are going to have a hard time finding me whining about me being deprived of 'hunting areas.' You sure dream up some funny stuff while you're home spending hours on the internet with some trailer-bound nemisis crying about how it's "dubya's fault" the whole world is going down the crapper.

Since every federal decision is ultimately traced right back to the US president, there were any BS land swaps that took place in the years prior to 2001? Just curious.. John Kerry would have saved the world, huh?
 
Greenhorn said:
Also, you are going to have a hard time finding me whining about me being deprived of 'hunting areas.' You sure dream up some funny stuff while you're home spending hours on the internet with some trailer-bound nemisis crying about how it's "dubya's fault" the whole world is going down the crapper.


Greenhorn said:
ElkGunner, Come on, I know you have a brain in there somewhere. Do you really think it's Joe and Sue Whitetrash that are buying up the ranch ground along the forest and subdividing it with trailers? Get a grip on reality. The issue is the loss of ranchland, habitat, and much of the time, winter range.

Greenhorn said:
I see them every day on my drive from Bozeman to Livingston for work. The entire perimeter of Chestnut mountain (Gallatin National Forest) is littered with them, continuing, to the east along the entire length of Wineglass Mountain.

The elk like to hang in the subdivisions?
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I suppose RockyDog has seen one or two of these dwellings in the Bitteroot Valley. I've noticed there's not much available on public land where the elk on the west side can winter. But I suppose they want to come wander around in those knarly high-valued subdivisions exploding the wealth of the local school districts.

You are absolutely right, I couldn't find you whining about loss of access, just whining about loss of habitat and wintering area for game. Yeppers, trading more public lands with quality habitat would be a smart move by the Dubya administration. Don't need access to the trout stream....

Oh, and I am not too worried about what Kerry coulda/shoulda done... The real issue is the elimination of hunting and fishing on Public Lands by Dubya.
 

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