6.5 Creedmoor Peak

[Forkyfinder]

Just what I need more reloading crap, more dies, etc. all for 100 FPS gain?

300 fps - and i wouldnt know, didnt buy a prc

 

[BuzzH]

300 fps - and i wouldnt know, didnt buy a prc

I didn't buy a prc either, but I know the hype is mostly BS as a friend did and he's not seeing the advertised 300 FPS gain with the peak ammo.

 

[PoleX]

Easy to see who follows influencers and who doesn't.

Just what I need more reloading crap, more dies, etc. all for 100 FPS gain? For about 99% of my shooting on big-game, there is no difference, for the other 1 percent, an extra mil/moa click on the scope.

Not buying into the hype.

Can we at least agree the world’s flat?

 

[BuzzH]

Can we at least agree the world’s flat?

Can we at least agree that P.T. Barnum was right?

 

[Point Creep]

 

[PoleX]

300 fps - and i wouldnt know, didnt buy a prc

Hands down the most “trendy” round in the last decade at least in the circles I run in. Sometimes it feels good to be an incompetent/factory rounds/7 rem mag guy. The 30+ antelope/deer/elk that guns killed didn’t seem to care much about headstamp.

Nice to see some new technology can trip triggers. Usually a good indicator something’s there. It’s Friday, time to hunt.

 

[Forkyfinder]

Hands down the most “trendy” round in the last decade at least in the circles I run in. Sometimes it feels good to be an incompetent/factory rounds/7 rem mag guy. The 30+ antelope/deer/elk that guns killed didn’t seem to care much about headstamp.

Nice to see some new technology can trip triggers. Usually a good indicator something’s there. It’s Friday, time to hunt.

Nothing wrong with any of them, old or new, every innovation is small when the market is this mature.

New tech always triggers simpletons.

 

[Point Creep]

 

[BuzzH]

Nothing wrong with any of them, old or new, every innovation is small when the market is this mature.

New tech always triggers simpletons.

It's never not absolutely hilarious to watch the easily influenced gripe about the price of NR tags, then buy every single piece of dogshit that they think is "innovation". Usually that "innovation" is used to kill a critter they could shoot 99% of the time with grandads '06 and weaver K4.

I'll keep spending my money on NR tags, and actually hunting.

 

[Point Creep]

It's never not absolutely hilarious to watch the easily influenced gripe about the price of NR tags, then buy every single piece of dogshit that they think is "innovation". Usually that "innovation" is used to kill a critter they could shoot 99% of the time with grandads '06 and weaver K4.

I'll keep spending my money on NR tags, and actually hunting.

There's some real satisfaction in realizing you haven't fallen off a turnip truck recently, while watching others jump like lemmings off a cliff in a single file line..

 

[BuzzH]

They really need to put this Peak ammo on the Home Shopping Network...I think a bunch of hunttalkers are regulars on that channel.

Probably sell out in 20 minutes.

 

[rjthehunter]

Nothing wrong with any of them, old or new, every innovation is small when the market is this mature.

New tech always triggers simpletons.

It wasn't that long ago that smokeless powder became the norm. I bet there were naysayers back then when the pressures jumped from 20,000 psi for the old black powder rifles to 50,000 psi in smokeless powder rifles just prior to ww1.


I took some of Federals higher ups on a fishing trip this past year. They shared a lot of info about the new technology and their plans with it. Pretty cool to talk with the people in charge of these innovations. Big plans for the near future!

All of this started in 2018 when the Army requested rounds capable of exceeding what was currently achievable through brass alone. Rest assured to those scared of more pressure, Federal has done their homework... The Army signed an agreement to purchase 40 million rounds of 6.5 creedmoor plus peak for using in their existing rifles.

 

[Forkyfinder]

Usually that "innovation" is used to kill a critter they could shoot 99% of the time with grandads '06 and weaver K4.

Yes. Basically everything falls in that category.

You still using grandads '06 and a weaver k4?

 

[TheTone]

I took some of Federals higher ups on a fishing trip this past year. They shared a lot of info about the new technology and their plans with it. Pretty cool to talk with the people in charge of these innovations. Big plans for the near future!

LOL and there it is folks…

 

[Ben Lamb]

The United States entered the smokeless era with the adoption of the 1892 Krag in 30-40 Krag, 26 years before the US entered into WW1. That cartridge was a significant improvement from the standard 45 Gov't in terms of terminal performance, speed, etc. Similarly, the common brass cartridge adoption over the muzzleloader saw marked increases in shots per minute, reliability, etc. The 30-03 was developed to deal with deficiencies encountered against Cuban/Spanish troops using the 7mm Mauser during the Spanish/American war of 1898 - which ultimately led to the development of the 30-06. Which itself was essentially a scaled copy of the 1888 developed 8mmI (8mm Mauser). Even then, the difference in metallurgy between weapons made for black powder and those for smokeless helped ensure the pressure spikes were handled well. That's why you see so much "special nickel steel, for smokeless, FlussStahl, fluid steel" marked bbls from the transition time - increased pressure required different barrels, etc.

Comparing the rearranging of metals for your case to the dramatic and vast increase in capabilities between black powder and smokeless, adoption of metallic cartridges and breechloaders, etc. is probably not the best argument for the small increase in performance delivered by the peak case.

For military weapons, this approach may make sense as those weapons aren't necessarily coddled and the military doesn't reload. Throat erosion, increased wear on actions/etc are acceptable losses in that game. I doubt these catch on for hunters and reloaders/handloaders outside of a small demographic, but if that's what floats your boat, go for it. It just seems like folks are getting excited about an 88 Pontiac Fiero thinking it's a sportscar.

 

[BuzzH]

Yes. Basically everything falls in that category.

You still using grandads '06 and a weaver k4?

Sometimes yes and it works just fine.

Grandpas 300 win with a straight 6 bushnell.

Dad's pre-64 30/06 with a redfield scope bought in the mid 70's:

I would hunt the rest of my life with either and wouldn't feel the need for anything else.

Oh, and I also used nosler partitions of the 180 grain protected point variety out of both.

Shocking they didn't bounce off.

I did however load the BuzzH +peak ammo for both, so that likely made it all possible.

 

[rjthehunter]

LOL and there it is folks…

There what is?

Is this a big gotcha moment for you?

 

[Mallardsx2]

I'll keep spending my money on NR tags, and actually hunting.

Ditto.

 

[PoleX]

It wasn't that long ago that smokeless powder became the norm. I bet there were naysayers back then when the pressures jumped from 20,000 psi for the old black powder rifles to 50,000 psi in smokeless powder rifles just prior to ww1.


I took some of Federals higher ups on a fishing trip this past year. They shared a lot of info about the new technology and their plans with it. Pretty cool to talk with the people in charge of these innovations. Big plans for the near future!

All of this started in 2018 when the Army requested rounds capable of exceeding what was currently achievable through brass alone. Rest assured to those scared of more pressure, Federal has done their homework... The Army signed an agreement to purchase 40 million rounds of 6.5 creedmoor plus peak for using in their existing rifles.

I’ve spent some time with their engineering team as well. Worked on several projects with them. Their director of engineering (for like 30 years) took my wife and I on a south fork drift boat steelhead trip then up the snake in his jet boat on what I’d consider an experience of a lifetime. Her reeling in a 7ft sturgeon and they even let her drive the boat for a while. Hunting fools. So yeah, unashamed about my bias.

They don’t run ultralight chassis and have vortex tattoos across their foreheads like all the hornady/prc podcast guys. Another feather in the cap for federal being able to finally make Hornady's needmore worth a damn…Laffin…