Been messing around with my .06 a little bit. On a whim I picked up a box of the 168 Classic Hunters. Anybody have the Berger data for these? I know I can email Berger, and probably will. Or I might just wing it. Figured I'd ask here too. Thanks, mtmuley
168 gr Berger Classic Hunter data?
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I load some other Berger bullets, and Berger's data seems to be on the mild side. I've pushed past their max in a couple cartridges without any problems. mtmuley
What powder are you thinking about or currently using? I have shot close to 1000 of them out of an '06 on steel targets. Factory barrel, what length?
cowboy, loaded some just now. I used what I had on hand, but am gonna try some other powders when I can get them. So far... IMR 4064, H414 and H4350. Factory Remington 721 with a 24 inch barrel. It's a shooter and looking to stretch the ol girl a bit. Any suggestions? mtmuley
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Mine really likes 58 gr of H4831SC with a 168 berger
I'm out of that, and my .270 likes it with a 140 Accubond. I'm looking. mtmuley
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Where are you located? I know Colstrip is out of the way but I have a pile of it and could part with a couple pounds
If you looking to stretch it out and want best velocity I would suggest RL17. RL17 has surpassed 4064, 4350 and 4831 in 2 different '06 rifles - one shooting the 168 Berger classics and one shooting the 208 gr. Amax's.
Down side - the RL 17 has shown some temp instability from -5F to 90F ( about .8 to .9 fps for every degree of temp change) depending on the weight of the bullet.
I seat them Classics at .020" off the lands and let r rip. I have found no difference in accuracy of the Classics from right off the lands clean out to .100" off the lands. They are no where as critical on OAL as the standard Berger VLD hunting bullet.
You should have no problem getting good velocity out of RL17 and a 24" tube. I initially tried RL17 because I had a 22" barrel on one of my rifles that just wasn't getting the velocity that I wanted until I tried 17. I've found the 168 Classics to work well out to 700 yds then they fall off pretty fast - the 208 gr Amax's will go as far as the capability of the nut behind the bolt shooting the rifle.
Fire 9, I appreciate that, but I am in Corvallis. Bout 7 hours or so away. cowboy, RL-17 is another powder on my list. The temp thing doesn't worry me a bit for hunting applications. Good to hear about seating depth and the Classics. Precisely why I bought them. I've loaded VLD's, and when you finally find the sweet spot, they are great. Thanks a bunch for the input guys. mtmuley
So the Classic Hunters shoot very, very well with H4350. I want more speed, so am gonna get some RL-17 when I can. Really happy with the bullet so far. Also, my friends all copper rebated boat tail 165's shot like crazy. Gonna have to have him send me some more of them. mtmuley
If you want distance, forget about the bullets in the 165-168 gr class in the '06 and get up there with some 208 gr Amax or the 215 Bergers behind some RL17. The heavier bullets totally outclass the mid weight bullets when it comes to BC and wind drift - and the wind never stops over here on this side of the State.
I'm not going to go too crazy as far as distance with the .06. As the kids get older they can move into larger cartridges and with the Bergers, I have an accurate load they can shoot a lot fairly reasonably as far as cost. More speed is mostly for me. And I do have the RUM for going long. mtmuley
56.5 grains of H4350, no pressure and under MOA. Might not need RL-17. Couldn't chrony cause all the paper plate group guys were at the range. Shoulda known better than to go there the weekend before antelope opener. Next weekend I'm going to my private mountain spot. mtmuley
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The tactical throngs were just arriving when Jr.and I were finishing up checkfouling some 300 yard lobs.
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