WY Game and Fish wants your thoughts on the preference point system (Moose and Sheep)

[rogerthat]

Random draws always work.

So how do you transition out of a point system back to a random draw? Abruptly?

 

[Huntnut60]

So how do you transition out of a point system back to a random draw? Abruptly?

10,000+ NR Wy deer applicants, with 10+ pref points, are waiting for this answer. Not to mention the elk and antelope applicants.

 

[BuzzH]

Preference point systems are the point systems that are failing. Can anyone come up with a state with a bonus point system that is “failing”? How is it failing?

Nevada, Montana.

I'm both states those with lots of points have worse odds than they did 5, 10, 20 years ago.

 

[DFS]

Nevada, Montana.

I'm both states those with lots of points have worse odds than they did 5, 10, 20 years ago.

Yeah but you still have a chance and you keep applying I suspect? It’s failing because you haven’t drawn tags there?

 

[BuzzH]

Yeah but you still have a chance and you keep applying I suspect? It’s failing because you haven’t drawn tags there?

If the idea of a bonus point system is to give long time applicants better odds of drawing, it's failing because of this thing called math.

 

[DFS]

It's failing because of this thing called math.

Sure with the increase of demand did you expect odds to stay the same or get better?

 

[rogerthat]

Nevada, Montana.

I'm both states those with lots of points have worse odds than they did 5, 10, 20 years ago.

Isn’t that due to a large increase in demand? Would any system have had better odds? In MT, I have max sheep points. The unit I apply for: My resident odds 1%. 0 points 0.1%

 

[BuzzH]

Isn’t that due to a large increase in demand? Would any system have had better odds? In MT, I have max sheep points. The unit I apply for: My resident odds 1%. 0 points 0.1%

Sharpen your pencil...your odds were better 10 years ago.

 

[BuzzH]

Sure with the increase of demand did you expect odds to stay the same or get better?

What was the intent of bonus points?

 

[BuzzH]

Isn’t that due to a large increase in demand? Would any system have had better odds? In MT, I have max sheep points. The unit I apply for: My resident odds 1%. 0 points 0.1%

Your odds are not even close to 1%

 

[DFS]

What was the intent of bonus points?

I don’t think anyone wanted or saw the increased demand that was coming upon hunting. Well maybe the people with business models did but I certainly didn’t.

 

[rogerthat]

Sharpen your pencil...your odds were better 10 years ago.

Yes, you are 100% correct but under any system that would be the case right? I think you nailed it in a different thread. Got to lower demand. Upfront all costs with a solid app fee.

 

[BuzzH]

I don’t think anyone wanted or saw the increased demand that was coming upon hunting. Well maybe the people with business models did but I certainly didn’t.

That's not what I asked.

 

[rogerthat]

Yes, you are 100% correct but under any system that would be the case right? I think you nailed it in a different thread. Got to lower demand. Upfront all costs with a solid app fee.

Maybe cap the amount of species you can go for. I don’t know. There is way more to it all than failing point systems

 

[BuzzH]

Yes, you are 100% correct but under any system that would be the case right? I think you nailed it in a different thread. Got to lower demand. Upfront all costs with a solid app fee.

No, other systems would actually increase odds for long term applicants

 

[DFS]

That's not what I asked.

Sure, and they are working more points more chances for a tag even though the odds are going down because of increased demand.

 

[rogerthat]

No, other systems would actually increase odds for long term applicants

Such as preference point system? That would only increase odds for me at max points though

 

[BuzzH]

Sure, and they are working more points more chances for a tag even though the odds are going down because of increased demand.

Still not answering the question.

 

[BuzzH]

Such as preference point system? That would only increase odds for me at max points though

Nobody thinks outside the box...well almost nobody.

 

[rogerthat]

Nobody thinks outside the box...

I am all ears. That’s why I was trying to spur this thread along