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Deal removes obstacle to wolf delisting
Wyoming likely to be included with Idaho and Montana in process to remove species from endangered list

CHEYENNE, Wyo. — The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and Wyoming have reached an agreement that will make removing wolves from the endangered species list in Idaho and Montana easier.
Gov. Dave Freudenthal announced Thursday that his office has submitted a draft wolf management plan to the federal agency. Mitch King, the agency's regional director, said the plan should allow Wyoming to be included with Montana and Idaho in the process of removing federal protections for wolves — possibly as soon as early next year.

"I'm elated. I've said all along that my preference would be to delist the entire listing population segment at once," King said. "I think we can go ahead and finish the process and getthe public comment in."

Thursday's announcement marks a break in a long stalemate between Wyoming and the federal government about the delisting of wolves, which were reintroduced in the Yellowstone region in the 1990s.

Wyoming's inclusion in the delisting means the wolves in the entire recovery area would be up for delisting. This gives the federal government a stronger legal case to fend off challenges to the decision. Endangered species have been rarely delisted along state lines, so including Wyoming eliminates a strong argument for keeping wolves in the Northern Rockies on the list.

The federal agency will take comments on Wyoming's plan and make a final decision sometime this year. Then it would be incorporated into the delisting proposal the agency announced in January. The agreement keeps the schedule on track, said Sharon Rose, a Fish and Wildlife Service spokeswoman.

The federal government is requiring Montana, Idaho and Wyoming to have plans in place for managing wolves after the animals are removed from endangered species protections.

The federal agency has already accepted wolf plans submitted by Idaho and Montana. But until now, Fish and Wildlife had not formally accepted a plan submitted by Wyoming, because that plan would have allowed wolves to be shot on sight in much of the state.

Wyoming took the federal government to court over the issue in 2004. That lawsuit remains pending even while the state enacted a new wolf management law this spring.

The federal agency has been calling upon the state in recent months to submit a specific wolf management plan. But Freudenthal has said recently that the new law stood as the clearest statement on how the state intended to manage the animals.

On Thursday, King said his agency integrated elements of the new law with the state's 2003 wolf management plan to come up with a new management plan that he presented to the state.

Freudenthal reviewed the federal proposal and wrote to King on Thursday that the federal approach is a fair representation of the state's position. Freudenthal said he's optimistic that the new plan will advance the progress of delisting Wyoming's wolves.

"I am encouraged that we have solved your demand that we submit a wolf management plan," Freudenthal said.

The law the state enacted this spring gave Freudenthal the authority to negotiate with federal officials to determine the boundaries of a permanent wolf management area in which wolves would be managed by the state as trophy game animals.

Outside the permanent management area, the new law calls for wolves to be treated as predators that could be shot on sight. Wolves would be protected in Yellowstone National Park and adjoining wilderness areas.

The proposed management plan that Freudenthal and the federal agency have agreed upon calls for accepting the federal agency's proposal for a wolf management area in northwestern Wyoming that's larger than one the state had suggested.

"I just finally had to tell the governor that from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife perspective, that boundary was the only thing that we could find acceptable," King said.

In his letter to King, Freudenthal states, "I remain unhappy with the boundary line but accept your representation that no other boundary is acceptable. Hopefully, this can be revisited in later years after delisting has proven successful."

Freudenthal also notes in his letter that several conditions in the state law that passed this spring must be satisfied before the Wyoming Game and Fish Commission can consider the adoption of the draft wolf management plan.

The new Wyoming law specifies that the law won't go into effect until the federal protections are removed for wolves in the state.

The state law also won't go into effect until the state's pending lawsuit over its original wolf management plan is resolved. Finally, the law specifies that it won't remain in effect past next February unless the federal government has given the state more control over wolves by then.

Freudenthal states in his letter to King that the preconditions "remain in effect unless modified by the Legislature."

-Idaho Statesman 5/25/07
 
I'm glad to see both sides working together to get this resolved. Who would've guessed the protection area would be bigger than originally proposed?
 
You're on Shoot's-Self-in-Foot. The bet was that Wyoming would be hunting wolves BEFORE either MT or ID would. USFWS has given in to Wyoming's plan to have "duel classification". Looks like Wyoming WILL be hunting wolves pronto!

BTW Wyoming's suit is still pending and I'll double down on that winning too.
 
Just a guess, it wouldn't surprise me any if part of the USFWS accepting WY's plan has something to with them dropping their lawsuit.
 
Read the article Pointer. Wyoming is in the drivers seat here. Lawsuit is still pending. It would be stupid for Gov. Dave to burn his trump cards, knowing full well what the huggers plan to do. He's just playing the game.
 
BHR- I did. He's playing the game, but I'm still not convinced he holds all the cards. The new state law can't be inacted until federal restrictions are lifted or until the pending lawsuit is settled. IMO, accepting the new plan will hurt the state's attempt at getting their old plan reinstated, pending lawsuit or not.
 
BHR,

Dont get too excited about the dual classification.

With the expanded area...not many wolves will be outside the boundary. Very few, if any, wolves will be killed "pronto".

Wyoming caved to the Feds...just like I knew they would. If WY is "winning", why did they agree to expand the recovery area?

I think WY (and Freudenthal) finally woke up and smelled the burnt coffee...compromise or be run over by the feds.
 
This from the Jackson Hole newspaper;

"The line Wyoming officials preferred would have, in essence, run along the boundaries of Forest Service lands adjacent to Yellowstone and Grand Teton national parks. Instead, the line will bisect Cody and extend south through private lands to the Wind River Range until Pinedale, where it heads northwest along 189 to Wyoming 22 in Jackson and west to Idaho."

If that's where the lines will be drawn, it sounds like the Fed.s are backing way down, and Wyoming won a significant victory. People have been talking for the last year about wolves working their way down to northern Utah and Colorado. That put them way, way south of the boundaries discussed here. If this goes through "as is" wolves will be (legally) shot in Wyoming long before Idaho or Montana enact a "trophy hunt" with tags.
 
If this goes through "as is" wolves will be (legally) shot in Wyoming long before Idaho or Montana enact a "trophy hunt" with tags.
Wolves have already been legally shot by landowners in ID. Since ID and MT have approved plans they are allowed that luxury, even if they don't have 'trophy hunts' yet.
 
Pointer,

The bet was which state would allow "hunting" of wolves first, not landowner "shooting" of problem wolves. No mention of whether or not the "hunting" can be done on "varmint" status or "trophy game" status. No mention of whether or not one has to even be sucessful when "hunting" wolves....just that it is legal to do so. As soon as delisting occurs, Wyoming WILL have a "legal" wolf hunt. BHR wins the bet.

Thanks for an easy case of beer Shoot's-Straight! I'll even let you drink one or two.
 
Wolves have already been legally shot by landowners in ID. Since ID and MT have approved plans they are allowed that luxury, even if they don't have 'trophy hunts' yet.

“Landowners “ ? So anybody that owns land can just go out and shoot a wolf ? Really ?

Replace the word “shot” with the phrase “publicly hunted”, my point is the same.
 
I am just glad my home state was willing to compromise, and to some degree end the band standing. The thing going nowhere was starting to drive me nuts.
 
Oh yeah, there are wolves way south of that line, so it will have an effect.
 
A-corn and BHR,

Do either of you remember where WY wanted the boundary to be?

WY compromised way more than the feds...and for the record, no final agreement has been reached yet.
 
I’m no expert like you Buzz.
If I remember right, Wyoming originally wanted the protected boundary to be the boundary of Yellowstone Park, so this new boundary represents an increase of around 4,000 sq miles, around double what Wyoming wanted.
On the other hand, the Federal Government wanted no areas open to “shoot on site” predator status, so they (feds) compromised down somewhere around 90,000 sq miles.

You do the math.

...and for the record, no final agreement has been reached yet.

You are certainly right about that.
 
A-con,

Can you find some proof for this statement? "On the other hand, the Federal Government wanted no areas open to “shoot on site” predator status"

I dont think you will find a single source for that statement, as I'm 99% sure it was never stated.

The boundary in WY's plan was the concern, not the dual classification itself. The EIS had clear recovery areas defined in it. WY's original plan would have allowed shoot-on-sight within the recovery area...which obviously was not acceptable to the USFWS. With the new boundaries, the shoot on sight will not be a problem.

In other words, the Feds didnt compromise anything as they never had a problem with dual classification, just the boundaries as defined by the EIS.
 
“Landowners “ ? So anybody that owns land can just go out and shoot a wolf ? Really ?
Please tell me your not that dense...

BHR- Is having predator status akin to have a 'hunting' season if one can do it year round and doesn't have to have a hunting license? ;) I have also talked with a fellow who was working on a ranch not too terribly far from you who got the pleasure of filling a couple of depredation tags on wolves. Sounded like 'hunting' to me... :D

I personally don't care who 'wins' the bet, I just want the wolves to be managed properly. Worse thing that could ever happen, IMO, is that they are delisted and then have to be relisted. That would not be a good situation.
 

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