Protectionist industries?

Barbers.

The first step toward a license is graduating from a barber training program. The New Mexico Board requires that you complete a program of 1,200 training hours. The Board also requires that the school meet the following training hour criteria:

  • Barbering Theory – 75 hours
  • Sterilization, Sanitation, Bacteriology – 75 hours
  • Shampoo, Rinses, and Scalp Treatments – 75 hours
  • Chemical Rearranging – 200 hours
  • Hairstyling – 150 hours
  • Hair Coloring – 125 hours
  • Hair Cutting and Beard Trimming – 250 hours
  • Facials – 175 hours
  • Salon Business, Retail Sales – 50 hours
Once you complete this education, you have 24 months to apply for a New Mexico barber license. If you do not apply within 24 months, your training hours may become void. If this happens, you will need to complete another 150 hours of remedial education.
You know the difference between a good haircut and a bad haircut?

2 weeks.
 
I had a really bad haircut in February.

That is what you get when you reduce your requirements and let any jack-handy run around with a pair of scissors.

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Teachers don't go to school to learn shop. They go to school to learn how to get your darling little terror to not lick windows and spit on other kids.
 
Teachers. College degree required to teach toddlers, shop classes, PE, art, etc. in public schools.
I can understand you may need the education to teach biology, algebra, etc. but it's certainly not necessary for a lot of teaching.
Idaho the requirement is only to pass the state teaching exam. People can teach as “temporary” teachers while taking the exams. Only education requirement is high school diploma or GED. After failing the exam three times, they lose the ability to be teachers.

My wife and I got into a huge parenting fight in a school parking lot about 18 years ago when we learned that the school was using temporary teachers, with GEDs, who were slowly taking the teaching exam. The school was having staffing issues because the temporary teachers kept failing the exam.

I agree that all positions don’t necessarily need a bachelors but easing the requirements can go too far the other way too.
 
There are very few professions I can think of that I would prefer to deal with a less knowledgeable and less educated person than one that has more education.

Obviously you don't need a Masters degree to teach, but folks that think the teaching industry is being "protected" by degree requirements is wild, IMO. Of all the things in the world I'd rather not skimp on, the education of my children is hanging out in the top tier.
 
There are very few professions I can think of that I would prefer to deal with a less knowledgeable and less educated person than one that has more education.

Obviously you don't need a Masters degree to teach, but folks that think the teaching industry is being "protected" by degree requirements is wild, IMO. Of all the things in the world I'd rather not skimp on, the education of my children is hanging out in the top tier.

based on what i hear from my brother who has been a high school AP teacher and now a middle school assistant principle, i certainly think some additional requirements could be added. managing teachers has been quite eye opening, and challenging, for him.

notably, perhaps psychological evals/screening could be of service to the teaching "industry" lol
 
Teachers. College degree required to teach toddlers, shop classes, PE, art, etc. in public schools.
I can understand you may need the education to teach biology, algebra, etc. but it's certainly not necessary for a lot of teaching.

Also, all the ridiculous contractor licensing at various city. county and state levels. I can see it for electricians and plumbers as that stuff can pretty easily be life threatening, but not necessary for a lot of other aspects.
It's just another tax and doesn't seem to weed out the hacks anyway.
There's a lot more to teaching well than knowing your subject. But it could be easier for folks that want to teach some courses to do it, we had an effort to do that in my state that hasn't panned out as intended. The teachers union gets pitted against progress there.
 
How much licensing should be required to guide someone fishing?
Guiding in general is more an allocation of resources than licensing a skill set. I don’t think any of us want 30 guides on our favorite river or stream if guide number restrictions aren’t in place. How to allocate guiding areas is a deep conversation probably worthy of its own thread. Do you grandfather areas? Highest bidder? Length of area contract? Make it the Wild West with no restrictions?
 
Guiding in general is more an allocation of resources than licensing a skill set. I don’t think any of us want 30 guides on our favorite river or stream if guide number restrictions aren’t in place. How to allocate guiding areas is a deep conversation probably worthy of its own thread. Do you grandfather areas? Highest bidder? Length of area contract? Make it the Wild West with no restrictions?
I follow your logic.

Yet - id have no problems with mutliple outfitting groups (without some fictitous gatekeeping market strategy) competing for the allocated resouces - just seems strange it takes 3 years of working for someone to be able to "take someone hunting/fishing."

Seems very low risk compared to other fields requiring a lenghty license period, exam, or certification.
 
How much licensing should be required to guide someone fishing?
In South Dakota, none is required, but they sure as hell should be. The guide industry stopped a law requiring them to be licensed this winter. Convinced the Ag and Natural Resources Commitee they couldn't survive if they had to pay a fee for a license. Guess it's hard to scratch out a living with an $80,000 truck pulling a $120,000 Ranger boat.
 
In South Dakota, none is required, but they sure as hell should be. The guide industry stopped a law requiring them to be licensed this winter. Convinced the Ag and Natural Resources Commitee they couldn't survive if they had to pay a fee for a license. Guess it's hard to scratch out a living with an $80,000 truck pulling a $120,000 Ranger boat.
I dont think there should be a barrier to becoming one - but regulated how many can be using public land/resources.

I think its BS a landowner cant be their own outfitter.
 
There are very few professions I can think of that I would prefer to deal with a less knowledgeable and less educated person than one that has more education.

Obviously you don't need a Masters degree to teach, but folks that think the teaching industry is being "protected" by degree requirements is wild, IMO. Of all the things in the world I'd rather not skimp on, the education of my children is hanging out in the top tier.

Revisit your own education and think about it. In most cases we all had only a few really good teachers that made a great impression on us and we all also likely had a quite a number of real duds that could have easily been replaced with someone better from the community, had not that degree requirement and teachers union put up road blocks.
 
You like transferable landowner tags and don’t like the thought of money for animals? I don’t understand lmao

I don’t have a problem with outfitters at all- when they draw from public land resources for their business, I feel they should pay back to the state to compensate.
 
Revisit your own education and think about it. In most cases we all had only a few really good teachers that made a great impression on us and we all also likely had a quite a number of real duds that could have easily been replaced with someone better from the community, had not that degree requirement and teachers union put up road blocks.

I had very few duds, but I was a motivated student and learned well on my own. I had two teachers that stood out though. One over prepared me for college courses and the other gave me interests that have continued the almost 40yrs after graduation.
 

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