Protectionist industries?

Im studying for the line trade and jeez does one need alot of certificate such as class A CDl flagger license Osha 10 CPR and first aid and then of course you're basic GED or high-school diploma then if you decide to go union don't forget the waiting list to get a position as a groundman and getting the apprenticeship could take years then if you do decide to go to a trade school then you're looking at 20k to 30k to pay for it and don't forget to get the CDL school plus all the hours on the Osha school so one could spend a year or more in schools then the apprenticeship is 4 years to top out as a journeyman. And you gotta decide what state you wanna work in and what union school they have but the line trade seems to be pretty stable just alot of learning and studying
Good choice. I know lineman that have made 7 figures on a w2 non-contract employee. Its worth it.

Plus - you can really kill yourself, others, and the general public playing with powerlines in a ROW. I think thats one where certification is totally valid.

The cpr is a good requirement too - there has been fatalities and near fatalities on job sites im aware of. Your coworkers knowing cpr might save your life.
 
Good choice. I know lineman that have made 7 figures on a w2 non-contract employee. Its worth it.

Plus - you can really kill yourself, others, and the general public playing with powerlines in a ROW. I think thats one where certification is totally valid.

The cpr is a good requirement too - there has been fatalities and near fatalities on job sites im aware of. Your coworkers knowing cpr might save your life.
Yeah I like it alot next year im trying for a local utility company and yeah I hear the pay is good so thats a plus especially now days

Oh yeah many ways for one to die whether it's backfeed from a generator or a difference in potential or step potential or speeding cars that don't pay attention or lighting or a 100 different other ways

Yeah so all linemen are to know basic aid and cpr and I belive it's every few months the company you're with should do a pole top rescue and bucket rescue
 
In MN the dumbest one is to require folks who braid hair for a fee (popular in some communities) have to be fully licensed cosmetologist with a year of training and $6-15k in education and licensing costs. One could wonder about the cosmetologist thing as a whole but the braiding hair rules in MN (which are actually enforced here) is the dumbest. Clearly the beauty shops are the ones pushing this to keep out home based competition.

While not training related, another dumb one is that car dealerships can’t be open on Sunday. And it is the dealership owners that pay the lobbyists to keep it that way.
 
There are very few professions I can think of that I would prefer to deal with a less knowledgeable and less educated person than one that has more education.

Obviously you don't need a Masters degree to teach, but folks that think the teaching industry is being "protected" by degree requirements is wild, IMO. Of all the things in the world I'd rather not skimp on, the education of my children is hanging out in the top tier.
The real racket in educator protectionism is refusing to recognized other state’s licensed teachers and to have such a “longevity in location” pay scale.

Similar with nurses. They need to be educated, qualified and regulated, but they should be able to work in any state without a bunch of hoops.
 
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Governor of Idaho. It takes 30 years and two years in which you must be a resident of the state.
 
In MN the dumbest one is to require folks who braid hair for a fee (popular in some communities) have to be fully licensed cosmetologist with a year of training and $6-15k in education and licensing costs. One could wonder about the cosmetologist thing as a whole but the braiding hair rules in MN (which are actually enforced here) is the dumbest. Clearly the beauty shops are the ones pushing this to keep out home based competition.

While not training related, another dumb one is that car dealerships can’t be open on Sunday. And it is the dealership owners that pay the lobbyists to keep it that way.

You're going to change your tune when your corn rows aren't straight.
 
Street corner pharmaceuticals. Never stop looking out for ''the man", waiting for another drive-by, and watching out for competition from a newcomer to the neighborhood. Seems you can never relax.
 
Street corner pharmaceuticals. Never stop looking out for ''the man", waiting for another drive-by, and watching out for competition from a newcomer to the neighborhood. Seems you can never relax.

Perhaps a different perspective.

The local street corner pharma dealer has a path out of poverty. Sure, it's a narrow and dangerous path and not everyone ends up like 50 cent but still - it's upward mobility in a poverty center. Every entrepreneur takes chances and has danger in their lives. These kids aren't any different. It may be crack today, but in 5 years, they could be selling bonds and stocks with the rest of the criminal underworld!
 
Perhaps a different perspective.

The local street corner pharma dealer has a path out of poverty. Sure, it's a narrow and dangerous path and not everyone ends up like 50 cent but still - it's upward mobility in a poverty center. Every entrepreneur takes chances and has danger in their lives. These kids aren't any different. It may be crack today, but in 5 years, they could be selling bonds and stocks with the rest of the criminal underworld!
The key is keeping the client list recoverable by honest authorities....apparently that's a yuge key
 
Perhaps a different perspective.

The local street corner pharma dealer has a path out of poverty. Sure, it's a narrow and dangerous path and not everyone ends up like 50 cent but still - it's upward mobility in a poverty center. Every entrepreneur takes chances and has danger in their lives. These kids aren't any different. It may be crack today, but in 5 years, they could be selling bonds and stocks with the rest of the criminal underworld!
For sure. I see them every day, and some find out before it's too late that they can lead productive lives. My Department has mentors come to our kid's camp and speak to them on a level they can understand when they see someone from their neighborhood and a member of their Society that has pulled himself out of it. They do realize that it can be done. Some choose to take it as inspiration, which is what we hope to see. They have to want it though. It isn't easy for them to make the right choice when they can work at McDonalds for $12 an hour or make $3000 a weekend slinging on the corner.
 
For sure. I see them every day, and some find out before it's too late that they can lead productive lives. My Department has mentors come to our kid's camp and speak to them on a level they can understand when they see someone from their neighborhood and a member of their Society that has pulled himself out of it. They do realize that it can be done. Some choose to take it as inspiration, which is what we hope to see. They have to want it though. It isn't easy for them to make the right choice when they can work at McDonalds for $12 an hour or make $3000 a weekend slinging on the corner.

Thank you guys for doing that. I was being tongue-in-cheek for sure but hot damn - you guys are awesome.

Thanks for being out there and helping those kids.
 
McDonalds for $12 an hour or make $3000 a weekend slinging on the corner.
Unfortunately it is hard for teens to take to heart the statistics that within 3 yrs 20% of corner boys are dead, 60% are in prison, 15+% are out of prison but have a felony record and less than 5% have moved up one notch in the gang.
 
Perhaps a different perspective.

The local street corner pharma dealer has a path out of poverty. Sure, it's a narrow and dangerous path and not everyone ends up like 50 cent but still - it's upward mobility in a poverty center. Every entrepreneur takes chances and has danger in their lives. These kids aren't any different. It may be crack today, but in 5 years, they could be selling bonds and stocks with the rest of the criminal underworld!
In a town near me there is quite a few street corner pharma dealers. The vast majority are working off the debt caused by their habit. Preferable to the alternative I guess. It is a sad state of affairs.
 

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