People Are Insane

[JV842]

Been in the fire dept for 28plus years, n emt throughout, n a paramedic for 26 years….there is NO WAY you restrain someone by strapping down their neck!!! Before we started carrying Ketamine, Fentanyl, and other drugs of the like…we would have to physically restrain patients but that was done w proper restraints on both the stretchers and backboards; arms, legs, forehead on occasion but always w padding underneath and preferably foam head blocks on the sides….and if the patient was having a seizure…I don’t know of many units that don’t carry midazolam for such a problem…part of ur ethos is “Do No Harm”
I would definitely report them if I saw such a thing….sickening….poor child and everyone involved

 

[Wildabeest]

Sounds like the child’s parents might have solid basis for a lawsuit as well.

 

[texwest44]

Yes, hello, the only comment here should be LAWSUIT LAWSUIT LAWSUIT.

@Nuts if your daughter has literally any of the information necessary to find who was on the responding EMT team, she needs to start climbing the ladder and bringing the hammer down. If the principal's answer is anything but "yes, obviously lawsuit time" then it's straight to the school board. They're the ones generally tasked with summoning legal demons to fight.

Lawsuits and lawyers are bullshit but this sort of gross negligence and reckless endangerment from a first responder is unequivocally unacceptable. They can't be allowed to continue to respond to public emergency calls with that sort of behavior.

Edit: And FWIW, I was taught how to stick someone a board by National Park first responders - not exactly the world's most gentle and friendly first responders group - and yeah there is precisely 0% chance that "strap them down by the neck is better sometimes" is a thing. At all. That is straight up endangerment.

 

[Wildabeest]

Um, her appearance doesn’t “make” guys do anything. Grown ass men are responsible for their own poor behavior.

@Nuts your daughter sounds awesome. I’m not sure this would ever not be a hill to die on when it comes to having that individual held accountable. Sounds like she’s up to the task. Those folks sound totally unsuitable for a job dealing with vulnerable members of the public.

Perhaps we should add “stupidest post of the year” to the POTY awards!

 

[noisy]

Perhaps we should add “stupidest post of the year” to the POTY awards!

I honestly could not even believe somebody would post something so stupid.

 

[INMT]

I bet she's good looking and it makes guys act dumb

You sound like a leach living in your parents basement. Snap out of it and learn how to interact with society.

 

[brushcreek]

Sitting here talking to my daughter about it right now. She reported it to her boss who said "they don't need reported they need educated" let it go. Guess her boss doesn't know her to well. She is typically super easy going. Extremely patient and understanding. But letting mistreatment of others especially her students go not exactly possible for her. And she is a mandatory reporter. So it will get reported. Regardless of her boss telling her to let it go.

Boss needs reported too it sounds like.

 

[Nick87]

EMTs range from awesome to shitty. Far more shitty than awesome though.

I'm finding this holds true with just about every proffesion. Or at least it has for me lately. Unfortunately. Nobody gives a shit anymore.

 

[SaskHunter]

I've responded to a similar call once at a school as Fire/EMS. Not once did we restrain the child nor raise our tone. If your patient is agitated, for whatever reason, and you become agitated yourself, your call escalates considerably.

I'm not fighting anyone when responding to a call. If you want help, you'll receive help. If the scene is unsafe because of the patient, we'll wait for things to improve or remove ourselves to a safe spot, not my emergency, but we'll be right back in when safe to do so.

I've had my fair share of run ins with shitty Paramedics when we hand over patients to them. Some are just miserable. The same way I've had to bring back down to earth fellow firefighters. Some people just have the PR skills and decorum of runny diarrhea. It's a stressful job, I get it, but keep it for the hall or back in the Engine/Unit without any patients around, like the rest of us normal first responders...

One thing I have no patience for though are aggressive OD patients, I'll do everything I can though, but sorry I ruined your high and saved your life. Not going to sugar coat it, friend, I gave you Nolaxone because you pissed yourself, had a weak pulse and weren't breathing, sorry not sorry and I'll likely see you again shortly...