Nick87
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Doesn't matter anyway until you take the money out of it.
Nov 3 - Independents’ Day?
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SAJ-99
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I just think you assigning too much power to party and not enough to the voter. I get it though. Illinois isn’t exactly centrist.
Back to the topic. Big Fin said both parties are attacking Bodnar. How? Where? Bankhead has no money. High profile Democrats in the state are doing fundraising FOR him. I’m not sure what kind of attacks are still occurring. That said, I can’t explain how Bankhead stills gets 20% polling other than Dems in the state act like sheep same as republicans. The whole thing is fascinating.
Nick87
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I just feel like when you have to identify ny party thats when things go sideways. Becomes more like a spectator sport.
Everyone is being attacked by everyone or by their supporters. I can't say I pay attention who paid for the ads or mail. We get mail and tv ads almost continuously. Yes, even mail several times a week. I suppose the attacks are on radio, too, but I haven't listened to regular radio this political season. There are a few positive ads. It probably depends on your perspective if they are positive or not.
I guess we'll see how effective they are ... or not.
Follow what’s being published by the most ardent Montana Ds and some of the Montana Democratic party leadership and you’ll see it. I’m talking beyond paid ads and fliers. Check out their social media accounts.
Gellar
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I love the thought of an independent politician or even an R or a D that will honestly work across the aisle because as was eluded to in the podcast you aren’t ever going to agree with someone 
of the time. Like most of you I’m tired of hearing reports say 90% of public comments were opposed to X but yet our elected officials walk step for step, hand in hand with the money they took from special interests. It seems every year a R or a D gets sent to Washington on the promise of draining the swamp but by the end of their first term they are the biggest swamp monster in the moss.
Our great Iowa Senator, third in line for the presidency, just took out papers for reelection in the next cycle. He will be 101 when that term ends. He probably won’t be contested.
of the time. Like most of you I’m tired of hearing reports say 90% of public comments were opposed to X but yet our elected officials walk step for step, hand in hand with the money they took from special interests. It seems every year a R or a D gets sent to Washington on the promise of draining the swamp but by the end of their first term they are the biggest swamp monster in the moss. Our great Iowa Senator, third in line for the presidency, just took out papers for reelection in the next cycle. He will be 101 when that term ends. He probably won’t be contested.
Nick87
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Jfc.
SAJ-99
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I don’t follow social media. Those people are crazy.
State party officials are often at odds with the National party. Entropy rules. This seems to be one of those times. The Republican party in WA is the same dumpster fire. The National party completely ignores them.
Probably could, but how would you know which party they were or if they are Independent.
SAJ-99
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For what purpose? So other voters have to do due diligence on candidates instead of voting by default party? Most voters don’t have the time or energy to do that work when voting for a dozen different positions and all the other initiatives on the ballot. I assume it is overwhelming for a lot of people, which explains how we got to where we are.
In my WA voter pamphlet I get a lot of labels of Non-partisan, like all court positions, which should be neutral. The others say “prefers Republican Party” or “prefers Democrat”. I have never understood that, but whatever. If you read the statements without knowing anything they all sound the same. Pro family, pro working class, pro public safety, work for you, etc. I think “party” is used (incorrectly, but still used) as a filter to ensure there was a vetting process. For a lot of these people there isn’t one.
Example: We get people like Goodspaceguy, who has run under every party and even made up a few of his own. (Note: I didn’t see him in the pamphlet this year. Hope he is ok).
Goodspaceguy - Wikipedia
Sytes
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Heck ya!
Bull Moose Party for the win! Get a real heart beating Independent as a U.S. Senator!
"Instead of instruments to promote the general welfare they have become the tools of corrupt interests, which use them impartially to serve their selfish purposes. Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance..." - Theodore Roosevelt
Wish I was still in MT - Seth Bodnar would have my vote too! Hope Montanan's learn their plate of chit served by the R and D's is exactly that... chit! Yet they keep slurping it up!
In California - unable to vote for him though doesn't stop some coin!
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The head of the Montana Democratic Party resigned and endorsed Bodnar. That is something.
Absent Bankhead dropping out before the ballot deadline, she handed the race to Alme. I would love to be wrong, but a GOP candidate, in a statewide race has a 46ish% floor for a vote total.
Austin will get 3 to 4 percent of the vote.
Bankhead will get 20ish% of the vote.
Bodnar will get something around 30% of the vote.
Alme will win with around 46% of the vote.
I do not know why Bankhead did not, does not realize she has less than a snowball's chance. Sometimes I am not sure whether it takes courage to run for office, or delusion.
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Sytes
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California is, hands down, the best State in the U.S. from a geographic standpoint... Politically, is absolute garbage!Trying to make Montana, California?.
Blue, Red... Both elements are blowhards.
Really- what does the “Independent” designation mean ? Holy crap - our biggest embarrassment in the state of Vermont is Bernie Sanders !! He lists himself as an “I” unless he standing next to AOC. Then he’s an I/Democratic Socialist.
Straight Arrow
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After a Constitutionally mandated every ten years local government review, an option on the ballot to change Gallatin County elections is to remove political party designations from the ballot when voting for county commissioner, sheriff, county attorney, treasurer, auditor, and other voted county offices. I voted for that option and hope it passes.
SAJ-99
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One person on the thread wants a candidate that cares about the “working class” and another decries Sanders for being an admitted democratic socialist. Welcome to America where we have a corrupt fascist running the country apparently because the party system is broken. Kind of makes me think Earth is a big sociological experiment run by extraterrestrials.
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