Newest US Senate Land Sale Amendment

Emailed my Senators yesterday, received non-topic/canned responses, as expected. I have my own doubts that an Ohio Senator even knows that public lands exist.
 
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Having just moved to Washington, I think we do have a chance to impact this. Washington Representative Dan Newhouse is an "R" on the new Public Lands Caucus. Even if not in his District, as a Washington resident, his vote impacts all Washington Public Lands -- not to mention those in the other 10 states -- and for that reason, I intend to be contacting his office if this proposed sale stays in the Senate version. I've also already emailed Washington BHA and TU and asked that they reach out to members in his District to make sure he hears directly from his own constituents what an "abomination" this idea is.

Everybody should check that list of members on the Public Lands Caucus, and if there's an R member in your state, do the same!!
yeah... have you ever chatted with Mr. Newhouse or his staff? Because I have, in-person, a couple of time now, and if you're not in his district then you're cut off immediately. Heck, I was still in his district when he hosted UT's Rob Bishop for an anti-public lands rally. When I confronted them during the Q&A I was told to "go back to Seattle" despite the fact that I lived less than 2 miles down the road. I tried several times to get in-person meetings with him, only to be canceled on, or told he's too busy.
 
It is incredibly frustrating that I don't have any ability to impact this. My congressional reps are all Ds, therefore against it. There is no room for nuanced voting. that every potential piece of legislation has to get packaged together and voted on as a block of Us vs Them, D vs R, winner takes all battle. This is a terrible way to run a country.

But this will live or die on whether or not the general Rs can convince some of their Reps/Senators to vote against Trump, not on REI or Outside Mag coming out against it. Not by calling Cantwell or AOC. Heck, I'm not sure if it helps or hurts to have anything viewed as being on the left side of the spectrum coming out publicly against it.
You have a lot of influence. Light up likeminded others in red states. You are a constituent of every committee, call those senators on the Natural Resources committee where this is being decided for referral to the whole senate. Every group you are part of online, post it there. giphy[1].gif
 
yeah... have you ever chatted with Mr. Newhouse or his staff? Because I have, in-person, a couple of time now, and if you're not in his district then you're cut off immediately. Heck, I was still in his district when he hosted UT's Rob Bishop for an anti-public lands rally. When I confronted them during the Q&A I was told to "go back to Seattle" despite the fact that I lived less than 2 miles down the road. I tried several times to get in-person meetings with him, only to be canceled on, or told he's too busy.
Fair enough. But he's still going to hear from me, and I'm going to do what I can to encourage those in his District to let him know how they feel.
 
I've emailed my senators, but they are both Dems, so I'm not sure it makes a difference. I am going to email my Rep, but as a staunch MAGA idiot, I'm sure he will vote the way he's told.
 
I went to school in Idaho in 05 kept my number mainly due to filtering scam calls. Anyone of you Idaho boys wanna pm a number I’ll make a phone call at least they will think I’m one of you. Also gonna be handy when I call a bio this year about a elk tag😁
 
But this will live or die on whether or not the general Rs can convince some of their Reps/Senators to vote against Trump, not on REI or Outside Mag coming out against it.
The goal needs to be getting the amendment stripped from the bill before it goes to a floor vote. No R wants to be “the person” to vote against Trump’s BBB. However, Mike Lee also doesn’t want to be the person who puts a shit sandwich into the bill that gets it killed either. So if there’s enough noise and pushback by the public, media and other R’s that make it appear the bill will fail in either the house or senate, it could pressure Lee to remove it (or substantially water it down as Randy indicated). Lee doesn’t want Trump’s rath any more than anyone else does.

Keep up the pressure!
 
Having just moved to Washington, I think we do have a chance to impact this. Washington Representative Dan Newhouse is an "R" on the new Public Lands Caucus. Even if not in his District, as a Washington resident, his vote impacts all Washington Public Lands -- not to mention those in the other 10 states -- and for that reason, I intend to be contacting his office if this proposed sale stays in the Senate version. I've also already emailed Washington BHA and TU and asked that they reach out to members in his District to make sure he hears directly from his own constituents what an "abomination" this idea is.

Everybody should check that list of members on the Public Lands Caucus, and if there's an R member in your state, do the same!!
Time to call is now. Senate will be liaising with their House counterparts on whether any amended bill they pass can hold up there. Vocal House R objections now can pressure Lee to change his mind if he realizes his amendment is a toxic pill.
 
Mike Lee also doesn’t want to be the person who puts a shit sandwich into the bill that gets it killed either.
I would be absolutely shocked if the bill is killed in the Senate for this sole purpose. If you follow and read all of the total news headlines about this bill, the noise about Lee's part is nothing compared to everything else.

Not a mention of it here:

Not a mention here for the "biggest losers" of the bill:

In fact, I went through the first 20 headlines from a google search for "big beautiful bill" and not a single one talks about or mentions the public land sell off. Perhaps that is because of the geolocation having me in WI? It is sad but as @Big Fin already pointed out on this thread, its going to be tough to find Senators that have this item as a top ten item on their list regarding this bill. Its a big uphill climb for sure.
 
I just saw on FB a guy making a long argument it was only 0.75 percent.

Only 0.75 percent this bill. Once the precedent is made, next bill might be 5%.
Is it still only 0.75%? Because several people have indicated it's been adjusted higher, but I haven't found a source I trust.
 
I would be absolutely shocked if the bill is killed in the Senate for this sole purpose. If you follow and read all of the total news headlines about this bill, the noise about Lee's part is nothing compared to everything else.

Not a mention of it here:

Not a mention here for the "biggest losers" of the bill:

In fact, I went through the first 20 headlines from a google search for "big beautiful bill" and not a single one talks about or mentions the public land sell off. Perhaps that is because of the geolocation having me in WI? It is sad but as @Big Fin already pointed out on this thread, its going to be tough to find Senators that have this item as a top ten item on their list regarding this bill. Its a big uphill climb for sure.
This is the first article that focused on the subject from a source that covers diverse subjects. Maybe the noise people are making is having an impact?

 
We'll see if any of the SD folks send back in this one.

Last time my rep, dusty, sent a canned email back which was in no way related to what I was conveying. Makes me think they don't even read the emails, or just assume it aligns with what they're trying to do anyway...
I sent in and visited with one of our members locally on this issue. Sen. Thune and Dusty support this. Unsure of Senator Rounds but I am guessing he will.
 

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