I totally get it, and I do just that for my kid (Idaho is a great place for a kid). But as an example, when I was a new hunter we drew Region G or K(maybe it was "J") at least every other year and could draw pronghorn on the west side of Wyoming every year we applied as NR before points became a thing. Now those are 5 to 9 years.
It seems to me there are states/draw systems that should make everyone happy:completely random, hybrid systems, squared points, preference points, bonus points, OTC, 2nd draw, leftover. Apply for tags that fit your situation best. All states might not be right for you.
That is not the point of this thread. The point of the thread is how to fix a system that many of us feel is broken. If you don't feel the system is broken, this thread is not for you.
You would trade 24 points for a Strip or Pauns rifle tag? You, me and everyone else!
There are tags that ain’t worth a five year wait period. I’d be 100% fine with a multi-tiered system for wait periods. Just as Utah has general deer, limited entry deer, and premium limited entry deer, I’d be fine with “no-wait” grade hunt codes, a “5yr wait” hunt codes and “o-I-l” hunt codes. All on the same app. You don’t have to put all three different classes on your. You could do all three choices with o-I-l hunts, or mix with o-I-l and 5yr wait, or all three choices 5yr wait codes, or make your third choice a no-wait code. Draw o-I-l and that whole list of codes is forever off limits for your applications. Draw a 5yr wait, and for 5yrs you cannot apply for any code within that class, but can still apply for o-I-l or no-wait class codes.
I would trade ALL my deer pts ( Az, Ut, Nev) for one tag.
You’re up to less than 90. Still feel like you you’ve waited your fair share of 448 years? You haven’t and neither has anyone else.
Was just making a statement. I am very well aware of the the pts required for each state and the units I listed. I just didn’t expect such animosity.
Then almost no one will buy those tags and even more pressure will get placed on the more desirable tags. Also, there are a lot of people hunting in only one or two states other than their home state because they can go on some of the less desirable hunts almost yearly. Put a five year wait on it, and do you think they’ll go five years between hunts, or just add more states? Once they’ve added more states how have your draw odds improved?
He makes public statements in favor of random on a yearly basis.
Yep, I would trade all my points in all states for one tag of each species in Az or Ut. Would clear a LOT of pts for deer, antelope and elk in 5 states. I am not even including sheep, goat and moose in this plan.
Not one tag for each species. One tag total. All points. All states. All species. One tag for deer. I don’t believe it should be allowed, but that’s the question I asked.
