MT ELK, Changing it up?

[CForest]

at this point I don't know why anything suprises me

 

[Mtnhunter1]

The objective is 92,000 & some change. Greg Gianforte wants to kill about 35% of the elk in Montana as fast as possible while appealing to his donor base - the same dudes that sued to eliminate stream access, asked for ranching for wildlife, advocated test & slaughter of the Northern Yellowstone Elk Herd and have tried to kill major access programs.

Next likely will be around the Elkhorns & Spotted Dog, along the Front and down in the Paradise where PERC is actively campaigning for full-transferable licenses (Greg Gianforte is a major donor of PERC, btw).

Sounds like they're getting what they paid for.

We both know that this has nothing to do with the EMP "Objective" but the control of said "Objective".

 

[seeth07]

We both know that this has nothing to do with the EMP "Objective" but the control of said "Objective".

"Objective" is only the private land owners tolerance of the population. Scientific "objective" where harvest is set to help prevent herd disease would be a totally different nunber.

 

[Ben Lamb]

We both know that this has nothing to do with the EMP "Objective" but the control of said "Objective".

Exactly.

Add in the 454 program love that is going on and the likelihood of HB 505 coming back in 2023, and this is just another swipe at handing wildlife over to those who would rule us, rather than work with us.

 

[BenInMT]

Preserving family values and hunting heritage for the 1%, F the rest of you.

 

[EYJONAS!]

At what point do people realize their emails don't mean anything and you'll just have to bend over and take it?

 

[Straight Arrow]

Oh bs. That’s a line of political crap. Fwp issues are not what most people vote on

That is true. However, "most people" voted for the version of Montana sought, espoused, and being brought to reality by Gov GG as a warped vision of the Last Best Place.

(About all I can say is, "Where the hell did the great state of Montana disappear to?!!)

 

[TrumpkinTheDwarf]

Holy f'n shit. Y'all are about to experience the full Texas experience. Anyone want to kill a bighorn sheep? Just wait ten years and you'll be able to buy a hunt up there for a breaks ram that got trapped when they put up the high fences.

 

[Gerald Martin]

Excellent.

But be there in person if you can to politely and eloquently express your frustration with this administration.

Oh I plan to be there in person and I plan to be eloquent. Polite…?
I think your standards are too high .

 

[rogerthat]

That is true. However, "most people" voted for the version of Montana sought, espoused, and being brought to reality by Gov GG as a warped vision of the Last Best Place.

(About all I can say is, "Where the hell did the great state of Montana disappear to?!!)

Not in eastern mt, they were voting against defunding the police, people being able to choose which restroom they wanted to use, covid lockdowns, etc, etc. I voted for cooney for this reason right here but that’s not what “most” montanans cast their vote on.

 

[Straight Arrow]

... voting against defunding the police, people being able to choose which restroom they wanted to use, covid lockdowns, ...

'Don't disagree; only the paranoia of misinformation and the phobia instilled by the theories was not only in eastern Montana. It was a statewide affliction.

 

[mtmuley]

This moves forward and they will come for western MT next.

Yep. Afraid so. mtmuley

 

[rogerthat]

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Based on the 2021 Map

Does anyone have any info on what is being proposed for the other 6 units not listed in the press release? What Are they proposing in those?

 

[SAJ-99]

Does anyone have any info on what is being proposed for the other 6 units not listed in the press release? What Are they proposing in those?

Some of the districts rollup into the new 535 under the "simplification" plan.

 

[The Hedgehog]

Same guy and team that was pushing for 10 either sex elk licenses (and no permit needed) for anybody with 640 acres of land right? And I thought that was nutty. This is pretty wild stuff. Utah's nothing.

 

[ccc23454]

Usually about here i would add a smart ass comment but this has snowballed out of control and has become disheartning. Good luck fighting this guys but short of lighting the torches and full blown recall i dont see any give a shit for average hunter. Good luck, will help where/when i can as this is a fight for a american lifestyle!

 

[JEL]

Big surprise.

 

[BirdManMike]

This cant be good for the outfitters either, right? After all, 10 trespass fees of, say, $1k is better than whatever their share of the $10k outfitter's fee is. Outfitters are going to have trouble selling $10K hunts when the next property over sells trespass hunts to anyone and everyone willing to pay a trespass fee to shoot a bull elk and quality of animals plummets. This cant be what they want/wanted, right?

Hunt clubs, too. Even better.

 

[Carnage2011]

This cant be good for the outfitters either, right? After all, 10 trespass fees of, say, $1k is better than whatever their share of the $10k outfitter's fee is. Outfitters are going to have trouble selling $10K hunts when the next property over sells trespass hunts to anyone and everyone willing to pay a trespass fee to shoot a bull elk and quality of animals plummets. This cant be what they want/wanted, right?

Hunt clubs, too. Even better.

Outfitters will have more opportunity for tags. They won’t be restricted to 10% of LE permits for non residents.

 

[BirdManMike]

Outfitters will have more opportunity for tags. They won’t be restricted to 10% of LE permits for non residents.

I guess. It looks like there is no LE on private land, tho, right? Shoot a bull on private with your general tag. Am I reading this wrong? If so, I am for the sorries. If not, I stand by what I said, this proposal isnt good for outfitters, either, only landowners.