More garbage MT bills - HB281 E-bikes aren't motorbikes

[Nameless Range]

It is great to see this bill probably dead.

The e-bike issue will be back though. In fact in a lot of venues it hasn't left. Whether it be how different federal agencies view them, how state agencies view them, how communities and cities view them, and how conservation orgs holding title to different chunks of earth view them.

 

[Nameless Range]

Something that has taken me by surprise is the amount of support ebikes receive from traditional mountain bikers. I am active on a lot of mountain biking forums, if only to better understand that group. On some forums, any criticism of ebikes is dismissed quickly in the same vein as Ted Nugent and crossbow hunting - "How dare you take away from the disabled and elderly!" An analogy used is accoustic (traditional pedal bike) vs electric (ebike). They refer to those who only ride traditional as "unplugged".

Weird subculture, but I suppose so are hunters.

 

[Ben Lamb]

Something that has taken me by surprise is the amount of support ebikes receive from traditional mountain bikers. I am active on a lot of mountain biking forums, if only to better understand that group. On some forums, any criticism of ebikes is dismissed quickly in the same vein as Ted Nugent and crossbow hunting - "How dare you take away from the disabled and elderly!" An analogy used is accoustic (traditional pedal bike) vs electric (ebike). They refer to those who only ride traditional as "unplugged".

Weird subculture, but I suppose so are hunters.

Inb this day & age, you have to wonder how many of those supporters are real people, and how many are troll farmers or bots.

 

[Nameless Range]

Inb this day & age, you have to wonder how many of those supporters are real people, and how many are troll farmers or bots.

Even though he has got a Linkedin page and has an affinity for corgis, I have always thought the speed with which @wllm1313 generates charts and graphs is suspect.

 

[Ben Lamb]

Even though he has got a Linkedin page and has an affinity for corgis, I have always thought the speed with which @wllm1313 generates charts and graphs is suspect.

If you say his name three times, excel opens.

 

[Gerald Martin]

Something that has taken me by surprise is the amount of support ebikes receive from traditional mountain bikers. I am active on a lot of mountain biking forums, if only to better understand that group. On some forums, any criticism of ebikes is dismissed quickly in the same vein as Ted Nugent and crossbow hunting - "How dare you take away from the disabled and elderly!" An analogy used is accoustic (traditional pedal bike) vs electric (ebike). They refer to those who only ride traditional as "unplugged".

Weird subculture, but I suppose so are hunters.

No kidding. I mean who doesn’t appreciate the genius of Mark Knopfler
and other “plugged in” musicians? It really is just an issue of aesthetics isn’t it?
I prefer trails limited to “non-combustion motivation” for my elk hunting, even though I use “combustion motivation” allowed roads to get to the gate.

In all seriousness, the crux of most of the controversy surrounding what is allowed or not, IMO, is a lack of understanding of how much exploitation the resource can handle without serious degradation to the resource itself.
God forbid that my age, or level of fitness, or willingness to exert or suffer should limit my access to the resource to less than those who are willing to overcome the physical barriers of distance and difficulty to access the wildlife that depend on those barriers to survive the level of predation that occurs with easy access.

 

[Gerald Martin]

I feel like that last run-on sentence has achieved a next level aesthetic all by itself.

 

[Straight Arrow]

I feel like that last run-on sentence has achieved a next level aesthetic all by itself.

I think I agree with meaning and grammatical analysis ... but awaiting comment from Harley.

 

[AvidIndoorsman]

If you say his name three times, excel opens.

Bro they’re called hot keys...

 

[sacountry]

I feel like that last run-on sentence has achieved a next level aesthetic all by itself.

It is a thing of beauty.

 

[AvidIndoorsman]

Even though he has got a Linkedin page and has an affinity for corgis, I have always thought the speed with which @wllm1313 generates charts and graphs is suspect.

You have found me out, I’m actually an AI on a server in the basement of MIT.... secrets out...

Also I like the route the Massholes have gone.

 

[Ben Lamb]

Man, MIT has really lowered it's standards.

 

[Gerald Martin]

I think I agree with meaning and grammatical analysis ... but awaiting comment from Harley.

Harley would summarize this with about three words. We would have to look up two of those words to understand their meaning, but we would all nod our heads in agreement even if it was just out of fear of appearing ignorant.

“Nobody deserves an elk. Earn it like everyone else. Your want doesn’t justify making it easier.”

 

[MThuntr]

“Nobody deserves an elk. Earn it like everyone else. Your want doesn’t justify making it easier.”

Oh I like this one...did you borrow it or is it an original Gerald Martin?

 

[Sytes]

You have found me out, I’m actually an AI on a server in the basement of MIT.... secrets out...

The Manchurian turned, Manexcelian Candidate for Hunt Forums. What's impressive... this Wllm character actually has hunt and backcountry photos to pretend he's legit!
I mean, come on! How the hell can a human actually post an average of 5 x's a day and enjoy such amazing outdoor experiences this AI Bot has shared here?
Harley's five syllable word with the Hunt Talk crowd's response achieving a single two syllable use of "using" in response...

 

[Gerald Martin]

Oh I like this one...did you borrow it or is it an original Gerald Martin?

I figured my original run on sentence was an on base single, so I swung for the fences on the next pitch.
Someone probably has said the same thing somewhere else, but I think the inspiration originated in my mind.

 

[Luke_with_a_lab]

Good to see it died. Drew my dream elk tag this year and starting to plan my hunt. Hoping I don't hike miles back only to run into people on the Ebikes blowing out the elk. OnX says trails are open to hike, bike, and horses.

 

[noharleyyet]

The Manchurian turned, Manexcelian Candidate for Hunt Forums. What's impressive... this Wllm character actually has hunt and backcountry photos to pretend he's legit!
I mean, come on! How the hell can a human actually post an average of 5 x's a day and enjoy such amazing outdoor experiences this AI Bot has shared here?
Harley's five syllable word with the Hunt Talk crowd's response achieving a single two syllable use of "using" in response...

Phonetically Inconthievable....

 

[noharleyyet]

...and I've no doubt whatsoever that wllm can do this while solving the cubes.

 

[rwc101]

They don't get a ton of love here.