Last Call for Walleyes

Big Fin

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Mrs. Fin looked at my calendar just before I headed off to Nevada a couple weeks ago. As she scans I hear her mumble, "Deer, elk, deer, elk, Yukon, elk, Ted, deer, deer, elk......."

She looks to me and says, "Where's the walleye fishing on that calendar?"

Caught red handed and overbooked, I told her that was what I was saving Labor Day for. With a smile she says, "Good save. You got the cabin booked? I'd bet they're booked up for a holiday weekend."

I scramble, turn on the computer, and by some miracle of the marriage gods, the cabin we normally stay at is open Friday-Monday. Caring nothing of the weekend rate, I booked it immediately and copied her on the reservation, to which she responded, "Now, you can hunt all you want."

As is too often the case when relegated to long weekends, nonrefundable cabin rental, and a 350 mile drive (each way), we were at the mercy of the weather. Plan was to get in an evening troll on Friday, but the wind and distant roll of thunder kept us cabin-bound with me retying leaders and her choosing crankbaits for the new presentation idea I had cooked up.

Anyone who fishes walleye in late summer patterns know they are mostly deep, in 25-40' of water, sometimes suspended off structure. The problem with her preferred way of fishing, is getting crankbaits to dive that deep, run properly, and not get hung up on some structure when you get too close to an underwater hump or point.

Some dudes from ND sent me some info on trolling cranks on leadcore. This summer, @stillkickin came out and we fished the Governor's Cup walleye tournament, along with a couple days of pre-fishing. In mid-July these fish are just starting to relate to deeper structure and suspended fish. I pondered how to attack them with cranks. Mark professed that if I learned to use leadcore, a big part of my problem would be solved.

He was so confident that he sent me two new Diawa Line Counter reels spooled up with leadcore to go with the two I already had, yet were collecting dust in my shop. Now, I had no choice. I ordered from Scheel's two 11' rods for outside and two 5.5' rods for inside. With MT allowing two rods per angler, Mrs. Fin and I would run four cranks, on leadcore, right off the back of the boat. No planer boards, just straight lining lead core.

I had scoured my downloaded charts to find enough deep humps that we should have enough terrain for at least three days of fishing. Tops at 20', with quick drops to 40-50'. The more varied the terrain, the more attractive.

After waiting on the storm to clear on Saturday morning, our fist wet lines didn't happen until just before noon. The best half of the first day was wasted. Dang.

I reminded Mrs. Fin that this was an experiment. She is known for changing lure colors about every 15 minutes. The pike were too cooperative. We had boated five of those slimy thing before we got hit by something that stayed deep and straight behind the boat. My hopes that it would be a walleye were granted. And a great 21" er.

A few pike later and another walleye, a 19". Then more pike than I could count. Finally, a 15" walleye, followed by a pair of 20" ers. When a pike got the entire spread tangled in on big mess I suggested we head to the cabin. I had fish to clean and needed to figure out how to stay away from this pesky pike.

Not a bad day for a late start and a technique I'd never tried before.

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That night at the cabin I floated the idea that we fish even deeper. Any time we got shallower than 24', the pike drove me nuts. Four of the five walleyes we caught were deeper than 25'.

I also laid out the huge spread of Bandit Walleye Deep crankbaits that we have, thanks to @stillkickin, our mutual friend, Denis, and Kim's insatiable appetite to have the largest crankbait selection in Montana. She's winning that race. We also added to our stock of Bandits courtesy of Scheel's. I did a presentation for their shooting/hunting managers and when I was giving the dinner speech, I mentioned how my wife thought Scheel's was the best store, as their associates knew as much about crankbaits as she did. I did mention our new-found interest in Bandit Walleye Deep. Not expecting that anyone at dinner was listening to my presentation, it surprised me when I returned from Nevada and two dozen Bandits were in a Scheel's box in my foyer.

Of the 20-30 different Bandit colors to choose from in her collection, Mrs. Fin is predictably going to choose the flashiest and most eye-catching colors. I'm one of those guys who believes you can catch walleyes on any crankbait or spinner, so long as it's gold. So we settled on the choices for the next morning. I got my way with one gold Bandit. She demanded we use the purple and silver that caught two of the five walleyes, and the other two would be a "cheap sunglasses" and a "monkey puke perch." She knows these colors by memory. To me, they're just "bluish" or "greenish" or silver or gold or........

We were on the water by 6:15, motoring to a different and more diverse piece of structure further down the lake. First fish in 28' was on the gold Bandit. Second fish, just a few minutes later, was on the "purple and silver." Did a big U-turn and clipped the end of that point at 26' and again the rod with the gold Bandit was screaming for drag. A 21", a 20", and a 23" in the fist half hour. And, not a single pike.

That's all Mrs. Fin needed. All four lines were switched over to gold Bandits. The day continued to be a frenzy. We caught five pike over the course of the day, which was a welcome relief from those bastards. I caught the largest crappie of my life, a 15" er, out in 35' of water, on a big old Bandit crankbait. We were trying to high-grade the two 16" and low-grade the bigger ones, hoping to come in with those 18-20" fish.

That turned out to be hard. 22", 22", 23", and on and on. The two 16" did get upgraded, but to 20". An 11" perch decided he wanted to try out a Bandit more than half his size. He ended up in the livewell with the walleyes and the jumbo crappie.

I told Mrs. Fin to start trolling the electric toward the boat ramp and fish for some upgrades/downgrades while I bled eight fish and started skinning them while I left the other two alive. I have an entire filet board and setup for the boat. She was pounding fish that was slowing down my guttin' and gillin' while I did the netting. When I was down to two remaining fish in the livewell, she caught a 20", which gave a 23" a new lease on life.

We ended the day with limits of fish kept between 19-23". Along with a bonus crappie and a jumbo perch. It was a ton of fun. The weather was as fine as you could wish for. And the company, although very camera shy, put a whoopin' on the walleyes that should satisfy her fishing itch until next spring. She's now scanning the Scheel's website, announcing which colors are on sale, and has placed a dozen gold Bandits in her cart. What other fishing gear might show up when I go elk hunting later this week is hard to guess, but if that is the price of my very liberal hunting pass, it is a price I'm happy to pay.

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A couple nice ones before they were cheeked and filleted.
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I love walleye fishing as much as elk hunting these days. May have to try the lead core. I struggle in the summer.
 
What is the water clarity there? It blows my mind that you can catch walleyes flat lining and not using boards. When we run an 8 rod setup with 6 boards and 2 flat lines we typically consider any fish on the flatlines as a bonus as they hardly ever hook into eyes
 
What is the water clarity there? It blows my mind that you can catch walleyes flat lining and not using boards. When we run an 8 rod setup with 6 boards and 2 flat lines we typically consider any fish on the flatlines as a bonus as they hardly ever hook into eyes
I’ve usually done just fine flatlining. Either get way back from the motor or go over 20’ deep. The deeper you are the closer you can be. Learned it fishing crappie, but it seems to apply to walleye too.
 
I’ve usually done just fine flatlining. Either get way back from the motor or go over 20’ deep. The deeper you are the closer you can be. Learned it fishing crappie, but it seems to apply to walleye too.
Most of the walleyes we target when we go are under 20' so that is certainly part of it. We are commonly using 2 or 3 color lead so its going back at least 70 to 100 feet but I still think the sound and sight of the boat spooks them and sends them right to where the boards are running
 
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Most of the walleyes we target when we go are under 20' so that is certainly part of it. We are commonly using 2 or 3 color lead so its going back at least 60 to 85 feet but I still think the sound and sight of the boat spooks them and sends them right to where the boards are running
I’m talking 100’ back or more.
 
It's not unusual for us to run 210-270' of lead core. But we don't pull Bandits. Mostly #7 Fliker Shads. 30-35'
 
I suppose you can use some deeper diving cranks and braid and get down 15-18'. Just always been a lead core guy.
I mean when I run 4-15’, I’ll go back that far. Used to flatline SR9 shad raps to 19’ on 12lb mono for hybrid stripers. Going deeper, I’ll run a 3-way rig with a 2-3oz weight and a stick bait and just run it on bottom, pumping the rod as I go.

Also started using 2oz clip weights to get flicker shad deeper. I usually fish alone with a 2-rod limit, so planer boards are just too much hassle.

I was broke and couldn’t afford lead core setups, so I came up with solutions using what I had on hand. Caught fish.
 
It's not unusual for us to run 210-270' of lead core. But we don't pull Bandits. Mostly #7 Fliker Shads. 30-35'
You are dragging your baits on the bottom then. 210' of lead with a spoon is 35' down and 270' of lead is 45' down. There isn't any data on how much deeper it goes when you put on a crank like a #7 flicker but probably gets you another 5'-10' down or so. So that setup you are fishing 40' to 55' down. Perhaps your amount of lead you think you have out is wrong?
 
@Big Fin

Kim, you need to make Randy bring you to Michigan this spring for our Walleye run. There’s enough of us Michiganders on here that we can get you two squared away. It would be a welcome break from the winter and the show circuit.
He should just go back to his hometown. Much closer and there is no better place in the states to go with walleye as the target

Actually I'm surprised she hasn't talked you into a fly in trip to Canada yet
 
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