Oct 12, 2002 #1 T trophy_killer New member Joined Jan 13, 2002 Messages 1,906 Location Salmon, ID It's true, it's true. I killed a bull!! He's a 5x4 if you count the points that are broken, if you don't count them he is a 4x3. Either way I'm extrememly proud of him. If I'm bored later on I'll tell you folks the story.