Conservation or Big Beautiful Ballrooms?

[mtmuley]

Yep, it’s why the Cowboys are still a team.

This is stupid. mtmuley

 

[longbow51]

I guess my point is that in the grand scheme of conservation issues this cut and ballroom switch is not as large as some of the other issues facing conservation currently. Half of the Western United States is slated to become wind and solar farms. As conservation issues go, we are about to lose millions of acres of habitat, public access, and public lands due to green net zero policies. With regard to conservation net zero policies and renewable energy a huge issue facing public land.

This is true for sure. We have a bunch of folks arguing about 1B for security (read the bill), and the obvious threat is right here in front of us. I have a close friend who works here (in the Great Falls office, which opened pretty recently), and subsidies aside, it's happening. Lots of wind and solar farms.

https://www.brkenergy.com/

 

[mtmiller]

This is true for sure. We have a bunch of folks arguing about 1B for security (read the bill), and the obvious threat is right here in front of us. I have a close friend who works here (in the Great Falls office, which opened pretty recently), and subsidies aside, it's happening. Lots of wind and solar farms.

Getting off topic, but how much solar do you think we will see in MT on public land?

 

[Forkyfinder]

Getting off topic, but how much solar do you think we will see in MT on public land?

Not a lot for grid scale generation until the rest of colstrip shuts off. MTs transmission capacity to transport generated power to external markets simply isnt there. Wyoming has more than 50 % more t line capacity leaving the state, for perspective.

As far as it going in for data centers - the fiber isnt all over enough for that yet, but its certainly easier/cheaper to build so those constraints dont exist in the same fashion.

Probably not a lot in the immediate future.

 

[mtmiller]

Probably not a lot in the immediate future.

Yep, RFD over the next 20 years in MT is less than the proposed solar to supplement Stratos data center in UT.

 

[longbow51]

Getting off topic, but how much solar do you think we will see in MT on public land?

According to my friend at Berkshire Hathaway, lots. That's all she can say, but they're on a massive hiring spree.

 

[mtmiller]

According to my friend at Berkshire Hathaway, lots. That's all she can say, but they're on a massive hiring spree.

On public land? Doubtful. Unless your definition of "lots" is different than mine. What does "lots" mean to you?

 

[Irrelevant]

According to my friend at Berkshire Hathaway, lots. That's all she can say, but they're on a massive hiring spree.

Well, in one of the greenest states in the union, we haven't done it yet. WE even have an entire Clean Energy Dept with the explicit purpose of cutting through red tape for green energy projects. Every proposed solar project is on private land.

 

[Irrelevant]

From ballrooms to payouts to felons. andother $1.5 B that doesn't seem necessary at all but only benefits a small sliver of loyalists at the expense of our grandkids.

New deal bars IRS from tax audits of Trump, his family and businesses

President Donald Trump has been feuding with the IRS for many years over audits into whether he and his business empire paid enough taxes.

www.usatoday.com

Bundy (both) should apply, he was clearly a victim of unjust political lawfare.
I love that people love fraud. Love Graft. Can't get enough of it. We're literally applauding. "Great Job! American first." Newsome of going to thrive

I can't get over this.

$1bil for a ballroom, ridiculous but okay, sure, golden toilets and all, but literally paying felons with American tax dollars (or more likely paid for withloans taken out against our grandkids future earnings) because they're complete loyalists to Trump, not America, is something so grossly wrong, and morally anti-American, it feels like a GD onion article.

They Stormed the Capitol. Now They Want Millions.

‘Take the money and run’ is how one January 6 rioter who wielded a tomahawk views the new Anti-Weaponization Fund. He says he only wants his ‘fair share,’ writes Tanner Nau.

www.thefp.com

Shane Jenkins, who spent four years in prison, told The Free Press that he thinks almost everyone who was convicted of charges tied to the riot at the Capitol will “take the money and run.” A jury found him guilty of smashing a window with a metal tomahawk axe and throwing a wooden desk drawer and other objects at officers inside the Capitol. “I have murder in my heart and my head,” Jenkins wrote in a text message the next day.

Four months after Trump’s pardon, Jenkins toured the White House. “From the big house to the White House,” he said in a video posted on X. Jenkins told me that he does not want to receive more than his “fair share” from the Anti-Weaponization Fund but would be satisfied with $1 million to $3 million.

I can't do jack about this because I didn't vote for this. I would hope that someone who did vote for this might speak up, might think that this crosses a line in the sand even for its own team. But I doubt it.