Attack on the Feds independence

[TOGIE]

Appears Murdoch's boys down at the Wall Street Journal aren't letting up on this stupid stunt. The Editorial Board has written this piece this morning and they are calling for some heads to roll.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/jerome-powell-subpoena-federal-reserve-department-of-justice-donald-trump-bill-pulte-jeanine-pirro-b6913599?st=Z39faN&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

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Read that earlier. WSJ has not been easy on the admin recently.

Gotta say though, the editorial board would do themselves a favor to not lay all the blame on Pulte and Pirro - still reeks a bit of bootlicking IMO.

Trump is the man in charge.

 

[Big Fin]

Read that earlier. WSJ has not been easy on the admin recently.

Gotta say though, the editorial board would do themselves a favor to not lay all the blame on Pulte and Pirro - still reeks a bit of bootlicking IMO.

Trump is the man in charge.

Agree. Make you wonder if they're so afraid of him that they think they need to thread the needle on anything that is truthful and critical. The Editorial Board has some very smart people, many whom have at least one foot, sometimes both feet, in the world of policy/politics.

 

[406dn]

I don't think the average American realizes just how bad the rest of the world perceives the US right now, not just this administration, but the whole country. It will take years, if not decades, to bring things back the way they were and that's if things ever revert back.

We always figured threats to our sovereignty would come from Russia or China, who knew they'd be from our closest ally?!?! What an absolute gong-show!

You are not wrong. How long it takes to regain the trust of the rest of the world, depends on how bad it gets, in the end.

My horseback pointing dog field trialling has brought me to Canada many times. It is a wonderful country, with friendly people. I have many Canadian friends. This past spring, to a person, they were deeply insulted by the actions of the USA. Our actions since then have only made it worse. Presently we are threatening to take Greenland, the easy way or the hard way. I suspect that NATO is gone before too long.

I'm an old man @74. It will take much longer than my remaining years. I hope it might happen in my grandchildren's life.

 

[rogerthat]

My observation is the bootlickers are going to keep licking no matter what. Theres no going BACK to normal. You can only go forward. This reminds me of Montana mule deer. We aren’t going back no matter how much we wish we could.

Since this is in the money and finance, I’m curious if anyone is changing their investments with current events? I upped my allocation to international bonds and stocks a year ago. So far that has not been a good or bad move.

 

[Gulf of America]

My observation is the bootlickers are going to keep licking no matter what. Theres no going BACK to normal. You can only go forward. This reminds me of Montana mule deer. We aren’t going back no matter how much we wish we could.

I unfortunately agree that the media/social media ecosystem pretty much guarantees that anyone still drinking the koolaid will continue slurping it up. But the country is still close enough to 50/50 (despite a gerrymandering race to the bottom) that independents can tip things in a big way. At what point do republicans lose all credibility with those folks? I'm a registered independent and sure as hell don't want to be a democrat, but I can't see myself voting for anyone associated with this version of the republican party ever again.

 

[SAJ-99]

The only saving grace is that there are so many competing egos that it's hard for any one person to make long lasting change, especially when they clearly don't know how the systems actually work.

But I don't think people are unhappy. I think people are loving that there team won and is in the position of power. They can barely keep track they're own work schedules, trying to get kids to school, when there team plays next, etc, to know what's going on at a federal level, except for what they see on Facebook, which is just more "winning" or "whining" memes.

I think there is certainly a subset of people loving it. They love when a guy like Trump gets power and breaks rules because they are people who also don't want to follow society's rules. The Army in WWII defined fascism as a government by the few for the few. These people love it because they think they are in the few, even if they clearly aren't.

Make no mistake, what they are doing is trying to change the political system of the United States. I think, or at least hope, a lot of reasonable people in the middle are realizing that they are not going to see the benefits of these changes. It still is largely Capital vs Labor and the biggest mistake they might make is turning the Capital class against the idea.

 

[RG300]

I've heard it said (on NPR no less) that "Trump is making Teddy Roosevelt blush" .... I wonder what TR would say about todays headlines on any given subject.

 

[Forkyfinder]

I've heard it said (on NPR no less) that "Trump is making Teddy Roosevelt blush" .... I wonder what TR would say about todays headlines on any given subject.

Might get as close of an answer as you can find here. Wondered the same thing.