Anyone else crying.......

Moral issues is the one thing that holds the republicans back from sweeping many blue states in a land slide. Neither party is what it once was, and with the change in the demographic of voters, the republican party has never bent on the moral issues that hang-up many voters. In most of these cases, no opinion is the best opinion. You don't have to support it, but since we are living in a free country, you shouldn't condone it and use it as a political plea. The current stronghold on moral/religious opinions is killing the republican party and it simply won't work as white males are quickly becoming the minority.

Also, in today's society, the entitlement of many pushes them to the democratic party, because the democrats want to give things away rather than have them earned by the people. Those that think democrats are for the middle class are mistaken, they are more oriented towards the lower class and the poor, hence the Robin hood analogy. I am the middle class and have received no benefit from the democrats, aside from higher taxes.

If anyone thinks the country is better off than four years ago, just reference the extra 6 trillion in debt that we are responsible for. Do you actually understand how many zeros follow the number 6? You don't put out a fire out with gas, and in this case, dumping money into the economy created nothing more than a flash to the fire and a slight, but temporary, bump to the economy. We burned up those trillions in four years and Obama's stimulus package created temporary jobs, but when that money goes away, so do those jobs. Road crews, green-energy, and etc. can not self-support.

I won't even get started on healthcare, it has done nothing but weaken the middle class. I pay more for my healthcare monthly and pay astronomical co-pays and deductibles, this in a matter of only 2 years. That is actually less money I can put into the economy, and more money I have to put into healthcare. While I 100% agree healthcare needs reform, the middle class is paying for it on both ends in the form of higher premiums and tax dollars. We are truly getting double-dipped.

The first thing we need to do is remove party voting and remove the party next to the candidates name. If you can't make an educated decision on your choice, you shouldn't vote. Many veterans preserved the right for us to be allowed to vote, and simply picking a name/party is not patriotic. Making an educated decision on what is best for the country and casting a vote to reflect that is. I don't care who you vote for, if you actually have a reason. I don't have to agree with your reason, but simply saying the democrats are pro-union or the democrats protect women's right's is hogwash. Unions haven't gone away despite many Republican presidents, we Have a National Labor Relations Boards, and ROE vs. Wade will never be overturned by the Supreme Court. Vote on real issues, not ones someone threatened you with.
 
Yep. Republicans nominate crummy candidates, obviously. Or the result of the last two elections could be different. If the object is to win, you have to put forth a candidate that can actually win.

No candidate from either party was EVER gonna undo in four years the financial and economic meltdown that sat in Obamas lap on day one... and concidentally I am sure :rolleyes:, was preceded by 8 years of 'W' at the helm'. If being president actually came with the ability to head off and cure economic disasters, wouldn't W have prevented it in the first place?

That magical remedy and the power to apply it does not exist?. So I especially think the ones who wanna say Obama did not fix it and want to lay all the blame for the economy on him may have their heads furthest down in the sand or up some similarly light-starved orifice.

We will all be better off the sooner we suffer from complete, total, Romnesia and look forward. Sadly, the republican machine will be stepping on their third legs for yet another four years and dragging all of America down with them as they stonewall every effort to improve things-- at the expense of most Americans--all in a vain and damaging attempt to ensure more voters are blaming the democratic party for all the world's woes in time for the mid terms and the next presidential election. Sad and pathetic and unpatriotic. If the shoe was on the other foot the dems would do exactly the same. Politics is a brutal and self serving business.


Flame away. i am not a democrat. Just a realist unwilling to drink the rhetorical Kool Aid politicians package in tidy and deceitful sound-bite packages over and over and over....
 
Not crying critter, but terribly depressed. Depressed! My son stayed up until 10pm hoping something would change. He almost cried as he understands. He is 7.

SO as miller eloquently wrote, will plan to be a great father, husband, friend, mentor and neighbor - plan the next hunting trip (this Saturday again - no tag, just a partner/pack mule. no luck last weekend) and carry on.
 
I'm interested how the markets will react today.

If I had lots of money to invest I would buy into crappy wind energy hoping more government subsidies will be thrown that way. I'd make sure I was as far away from coal as I could get. Firearms might make a climb. I'd sell any holding I have in news stations now everyone is done spending money on political adds.
 
Kiss the USA goodbye, and welcome the Unionized LGBT Muslim Country of Illegals. Socialism has won and Soros' vision of a new world order under the UN has become one step closer to reality. Two or three more Sotomayers and Kagans on the SCOTUS, and the threat of ever increasing Executive Orders to circumvent the legislative branch and the Constitution will insure the utter destruction and downfall of what was once the greatest nation in the world. The middle class will become obsolete, as the low class trash takes more and more of the working man's income, courtesy of the socialist Democrats, while the jobs creating wealthy get robbed to support the ever increasing debt generated by Obamacare and a massively growing society of entitlements. China, Japan, and Saudi Arabia will continue to own more of the CFKA assets, and the dollar will decline to a value less than kopecs. Bend over Americans, and spread 'em, 'cause there isn't enough KY to go around for the major ass fugging we are going to receive over the course of the next 4 years.........if we're lucky enough to get rid of the dictator in chief then!!!!!!! Our President? Hell no, he isn't mine, he's just the imposter in chief who happens to occupy the former White House that has now become the main headquarters for all of the ghetto trash!!!!!!!!!!
 
I'm interested how the markets will react today.

Everyone is going to dump stock, and buy gold.

If I had lots of money to invest.

After the dumb people over-react by selling off(and buy gold at a temporarily inflated price) the dow will dip a couple hundred points. Then, patient people with money will be buying proven performing stocks at a big discount.
 
I'm crying or more than one reason..... while my country was going to hell my arrow was delicately slicing hair off the bottom of a super solid muley chest. Boo hoo.....
 
Kiss the USA goodbye, and welcome the Unionized LGBT Muslim Country of Illegals. Socialism has won and Soros' vision of a new world order under the UN has become one step closer to reality. Two or three more Sotomayers and Kagans on the SCOTUS, and the threat of ever increasing Executive Orders to circumvent the legislative branch and the Constitution will insure the utter destruction and downfall of what was once the greatest nation in the world. The middle class will become obsolete, as the low class trash takes more and more of the working man's income, courtesy of the socialist Democrats, while the jobs creating wealthy get robbed to support the ever increasing debt generated by Obamacare and a massively growing society of entitlements. China, Japan, and Saudi Arabia will continue to own more of the CFKA assets, and the dollar will decline to a value less than kopecs. Bend over Americans, and spread 'em, 'cause there isn't enough KY to go around for the major ass fugging we are going to receive over the course of the next 4 years.........if we're lucky enough to get rid of the dictator in chief then!!!!!!! Our President? Hell no, he isn't mine, he's just the imposter in chief who happens to occupy the former White House that has now become the main headquarters for all of the ghetto trash!!!!!!!!!!

And here's the reason ammo prices are going to inflate. Nothing to do with the President, everything to do with wingnuts over-reacting.
 
Yep. Republicans nominate crummy candidates, obviously. Or the result of the last two elections could be different. If the object is to win, you have to put forth a candidate that can actually win.

No candidate from either party was EVER gonna undo in four years the financial and economic meltdown that sat in Obamas lap on day one... and concidentally I am sure :rolleyes:, was preceded by 8 years of 'W' at the helm'. If being president actually came with the ability to head off and cure economic disasters, wouldn't W have prevented it in the first place?

That magical remedy and the power to apply it does not exist?. So I especially think the ones who wanna say Obama did not fix it and want to lay all the blame for the economy on him may have their heads furthest down in the sand or up some similarly light-starved orifice.

We will all be better off the sooner we suffer from complete, total, Romnesia and look forward. Sadly, the republican machine will be stepping on their third legs for yet another four years and dragging all of America down with them as they stonewall every effort to improve things-- at the expense of most Americans--all in a vain and damaging attempt to ensure more voters are blaming the democratic party for all the world's woes in time for the mid terms and the next presidential election. Sad and pathetic and unpatriotic. If the shoe was on the other foot the dems would do exactly the same. Politics is a brutal and self serving business.


Flame away. i am not a democrat. Just a realist unwilling to drink the rhetorical Kool Aid politicians package in tidy and deceitful sound-bite packages over and over and over....

So, just so I understand, the way to clean up a bad economy is to make it worse by throwing extra gas on the fire? There was no reason to spend the extra 6 trillion in a recovery attempt, especially the way in which it was spent. I am not saying that after 8 years of "W" we were on a good position, but the past 4 years didn't make it any better, it made it worse. Things could have been done differently to create LONG standing jobs, not ones that were based off of technology that is not mature (ie. green energy that won't be ready for another 10 years), and not increase the debt by 50%....

I lie in the middle of both the Republican and Democratic party in terms of issues. That being said, I do blame the current state of economy on Obama. Not because he inherited a great one that wasn't doing poorly, but for making a bad situation worse by the way he spent MY money. My head sits proudly above the sand, as I don't buy into 90% of what the media tells me, I actually look at the facts unbiasedly and use my brain to decipher the truth. You can only blame past presidents for so long before that argument becomes absolutely absurd. Had Obama made headway in recovery, I would have voted for him, no issue. Sadly I can't say that for some of my Democrat friends that vote solely because they work in a union and are told who to vote for.

And in terms of blaming Republicans for bipartisanship, you are overlooking that both parties are to blame. This happens regardless of the party associated with the president. Both parties have a strong agenda and use "numbers" to put a stranglehold on getting things accomplished. Each party claims it isn't their fault, that is the way our screwed up political system works. Not that I agree with it, but blaming either party for it is absolutely absurd. It isn't necessarily either party dragging their feet either, it is both parties unwilling to work together. It goes beyond just a party trying to make the president look bad.
 
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And here's the reason ammo prices are going to inflate. Nothing to do with the President, everything to do with wingnuts over-reacting.

Actually, the main reason is the nearly inevitable increased taxation. While income tax increases are always the area of focus for the middle tax, what people fail to realize is that all the other taxes that get mixed into the price of goods are what do the most damage.
 
Usually I don't waste my time reading political crap on the internet...just spent 30 seconds scanning through some of this stuff.

Good god, some of you guys need to take a deep breath and crawl out from your bunkers.

rthomas..seriously?? People like you make me not want to be a Republican.

Pretty sure the world will keep turning and I will get to go hunting this weekend.

My two thoughts on the election:

1. Pretty sad that the Rep. candidate was the best we could come up with, with the Pres. seat ripe for the picking. Again..makes me not want to be a Rep. if that's the best we can do.

2. Me and my family are much better off then I was 4-years ago..I'll keep plugging along.

Can't wait to go chase elk this weekend.
 
Kiss the USA goodbye, and welcome the Unionized LGBT Muslim Country of Illegals. Socialism has won and Soros' vision of a new world order under the UN has become one step closer to reality. Two or three more Sotomayers and Kagans on the SCOTUS, and the threat of ever increasing Executive Orders to circumvent the legislative branch and the Constitution will insure the utter destruction and downfall of what was once the greatest nation in the world. The middle class will become obsolete, as the low class trash takes more and more of the working man's income, courtesy of the socialist Democrats, while the jobs creating wealthy get robbed to support the ever increasing debt generated by Obamacare and a massively growing society of entitlements. China, Japan, and Saudi Arabia will continue to own more of the CFKA assets, and the dollar will decline to a value less than kopecs. Bend over Americans, and spread 'em, 'cause there isn't enough KY to go around for the major ass fugging we are going to receive over the course of the next 4 years.........if we're lucky enough to get rid of the dictator in chief then!!!!!!! Our President? Hell no, he isn't mine, he's just the imposter in chief who happens to occupy the former White House that has now become the main headquarters for all of the ghetto trash!!!!!!!!!!

Have you ever had a psych evaluation?
 
If you are a conservative and like a limited government you should join a lawsuit to sue the Republican party for political malpractice. Many of the Senate races they lost were ones they shouldn't have and if they cannot knock off a sitting president with a terrible economy then they need to do some deep soul searching.

Nemont
 
I did not vote for I Obama. I did not see anything remarkable about his opponent.

I am not a Democrat. Never have been. But, the Republicans go out of their way every two years to convince me that I am not one of them.

My thoughts mirror this.

The saving grace I see in this election is that a certain "conservationalist" from Utah who was working for the R campaign won't be getting the job in the Department of Interior.
 
Well, fact of the matter is this.........I was sure disappointed things went the way they did and was really frustated last night. That being said, more bitching now isn't going to change it. I sure hope that from this point forward we make the best of it and BO does us all a good job. I've been republican all my life but even the extreme comments from our side make me not want to be one.

Hopefully things will get better for this country and the Rep. party will start finding somone who is worth a crap to run for us.

There is one thing I can say for sure.........I'M GLAD THE DAMN ELECTIONS ARE OVER!!!!"

Onward and Forward..........
 
There is one thing I can say for sure.........I'M GLAD THE DAMN ELECTIONS ARE OVER!!!!"

Onward and Forward..........

I think we can ALL agree on this.

The pundits are doing their job by making things more divisive. They are in the business of creating friction where there doesn't need to be any - insuring that things do not move forward and get done. Good for them but bad for the country. People who swallow the bs only keep those idiots in business.
 
Listen to you guys . . . arm-chair quarter backs. You are part of the problem.

What does your crystal ball tell you now?

You don't know what is to come in the future . . . whether it's good or bad. If you did you would all be wealthy and not on here whining and guessing.

If you don't like it . . . . get involved (or more involved) and change it. Tell your US Congressman and/or Senators to work on a compromise to get this Great Country moving in the right direction. Both sides are to blame and that is the real problem, no one is willing to compromise.

Until then . . . . shut up. I am so sick and tired of the political ads and NOW this whining and "guessing" about the future.
 

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