WY one shot pronghorn hunt...circling the drain

[BuzzH]

They say timing is everything, bad timing for Hickenlooper and the one shot hunt.

Looks like he's being called out for participating in the one shot hunt, which is a big disgrace in so many ways. As has been discussed on this board and in a podcast that Jeff and I did with Randy, this "hunts" shelf life is over. Its been rotten for years, time to take out the trash.

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Interestingly enough, for the first time since I've been involved in WY issues, the WYGF commission is set this Friday to approve "up to" 80 tags for this joke of a hunt. Many repeat "hunters" get tags every year in the "past shooters club", in some of the premier areas in the State for pronghorn. The tags they are issued do not count against their other chances to secure and hunt other tags. They can also accrue preference points while getting to hunt other premier areas. Further, this a good old boys club, no women are allowed to participate. I always thought hunting was supposed to be INCLUSIVE not EXCLUSIVE.

I'm going to testify against this hunt to the commission and recommend they only approve 24 tags for the hunt and NONE for the past shooters club.

If anyone is so inclined, you can email the commission here:

Wyoming Game and Fish Department - Meet the Commissioners

wgfd.wyo.gov

Meeting information for this Thursday and Friday:

https://wgfd.wyo.gov/getmedia/7eb79d0c-518f-4c82-80c5-fc183f22a8d1/July-2020-Commission-Agenda_Tour_Zoom_Comment-Sheet

There are links provided for both Thursday and Friday via zoom (each day has a separate zoom invite) you have to register to get the invite number.

Maybe this latest development will finally put the nail in the coffin of this thing.

 

[406LIFE]

I've followed this for a handful of years now. Please keep us updated on any developments.

 

[BuzzH]

WPR picked up the story too...

Lander's One Shot Antelope Hunt Faces Mounting Pressure To "Re-Write The Script"

Every September, 24 hunters gather in Lander and compete to see who can down an antelope with a single bullet. The One Shot Antelope Hunt is an…

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[rwc101]

I didn't know about this until I heard it on WPR. I couldn't believe what I was hearing.

 

[BuzzH]

I didn't know about this until I heard it on WPR. I couldn't believe what I was hearing.

Lander "one shot" hunt issues...

One of the legislative interim topics that is going to be getting some press is the issue of "complimentary and set-aside" licenses. This all came about due to a bill that would have set aside 80 licenses for a womens only pronghorn hunt in NE Wyoming. While I had heard of the "one shot"...

www.hunttalk.com

 

[406LIFE]

What was the podcast episode #?

 

[Deleted member 28227]

They hunt unit 65 correct? See @BuzzH 's break down.

NR Random draw- 4 tags
NR Special draw -2 tags
NR reg draw - 12
NR reg draw special -9

Total NR =27
Total Resident 86

80 tags for one shot... Holy WTF

Can you imagine the brouhaha if anyone in any state for any species tried to create a contest in a 7pt unit where they gave half the tags to "famous people.

"Just out of CO, western governors and cool people they are friends with, are going to get half the tags in unit 76 to archery hunt elk.
Also it's men only... and we are going to culturally appropriate everything we possibly can from Native Americans."

One shot needs to come to and end, the whole thing is just shooting all kinds of holes in our boat.

One Shot Antelope Hunt – One Shot Antelope Hunt

oneshotantelopehunt.com

 

[BuzzH]

What was the podcast episode #?

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Toward the end with Jeff and I.

 

[Deleted member 28227]

Also @jlmatthew might have had a point about CO ranchers versus WY ranchers 15 to 9... ouch.

Montana tied with Connecticut...

(Jokes folks, just some jokes)

 

[BuzzH]

They hunt unit 65 correct?

NR Random draw- 4 tags
NR Special draw -2 tags
NR reg draw - 12
NR reg draw special -9

Total NR =27
Total Resident 86

80 tags for one shot... Holy WTF

Can you imagine the brouhaha if anyone in any state for any species tried to create a contest in a 7pt unit where they gave half the tags to "famous people.

"Just out of CO, western governors and cool people they are friends with, are going to get half the tags in unit 76 to archery hunt elk.
Also it's men only... and we are going to culturally appropriate everything we possibly can from Native Americans."

One shot needs to come to and end, the whole thing is just shooting all kinds of holes in our boat.

One Shot Antelope Hunt – One Shot Antelope Hunt

oneshotantelopehunt.com

Here's the breakdown by the Department on the tag allocations they (commission) will consider this Friday for the one shot hunt, I have it on pdf.

unit 65 10 tags
unit 66 9 tags
unit 67 17 tags
unit 68 31 tags
unit 106 13 tags


These are all top tier trophy units in central Wyoming with gobs of public land, some of the most desirable pronghorn tags in the State.

My Dad has hunted 68 as a NR, and this year with 7 points he couldn't have drawn in the regular draw, IIRC.

I also have a list of all the hunters that have participated from 2008-2018 and there are names that come up EVERY year for receiving tags, more that show up 5 times or more.

 

[Deleted member 18333]

I'm going to testify against this hunt to the commission and recommend they only approve 24 tags for the hunt and NONE for the past shooters club.

Buzz,

I plan on being there on Friday as well.

 

[Deleted member 18333]

Maybe I will bring my wife and son as well. We all applied for 106 and none of us drew. Youngest son did. See if the Comms will look them in the eye and tell them that D list celebrities and politicians are more deserving of that tag than they are.

 

[BuzzH]

Maybe I will bring my wife and son as well. We all applied for 106 and none of us drew. Youngest son did. See if the Comms will look them in the eye and tell them that D list celebrities and politicians are more deserving of that tag than they are.

I signed up for a virtual time, but if I can swing it, I'd rather be there in person. Hopefully see you there.

 

[Trial153]

Great illustration of the amount of tags that get allocated for cronyism and politics. I think a nation wide list would open some eyes.
Good luck Buzz

 

[Deleted member 18333]

I signed up for a virtual time, but if I can swing it, I'd rather be there in person. Hopefully see you there.

Pretty easy drive for me and only a few hours of vacation time. If you make it in person, safe travels.

 

[seeth07]

Has there ever been a proposal to shift the location of the hunt to an area with more abundant tag opportunities? Such as say where the Woman's one shot is?

 

[BuzzH]

Has there ever been a proposal to shift the location of the hunt to an area with more abundant tag opportunities? Such as say where the Woman's one shot is?

No, and the womens hunt is not a "one shot" hunt.

IMO, no state allocated resource/tags should be used for exclusive hunts, period. Draw your tags through the draw and have your hunt, but don't ask the public to give you tags for your hunt.

 

[Deleted member 18333]

IMO, no state allocated resource/tags should be used for exclusive hunts, period. Draw your tags through the draw and have your hunt, but don't ask the public to give you tags for your hunt.

Pretty sad state of affairs when Veterans have to solicit donations of tags on the internet but these participants are given choice tags. For what reason? Because they were democratically voted into office, a lobbyist or appeared as Burglar #2 on an episode of Magnum PI.

 

[Deleted member 28227]

Pretty sad state of affairs when Veterans have to solicit donations of tags on the internet but these participants are given choice tags. For what reason? Because they were democratically voted into office, a lobbyist or appeared as Burglar #2 on an episode of Magnum PI.

Or have a popular hunting podcast and show... Team CO 2017

 

[seeth07]

No, and the womens hunt is not a "one shot" hunt.

IMO, no state allocated resource/tags should be used for exclusive hunts, period. Draw your tags through the draw and have your hunt, but don't ask the public to give you tags for your hunt.

Yes I get that but I was just referring to the location (abundance of tags in that unit) rather than the comparison of the two hunts. If the Men's One Shot was moved to that exact same unit, the concept of politicians being entitled rare tags goes away.