Seems to be a man crush going on.
Wolf wing nuts lose again!
- Thread starter Big Fin
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Seems to be a man crush going on.
noharleyyet
Well-known member
.....clever closing salutation.
Fin is the most PC hunter dude I know....fact.
No Jones, no mancrush.
On this issue, you bet.
DreaminofMT6X6s
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Feel free to forward this on to Don Peay and/or Ryan Benson...
If this were facebook, I just clicked the LIKE button!
drahthaar
Active member
What do anti-hunters have to do with Fin saying the SFW/BGF are a bunch of clowns. It wasn't directed at antihunters. In fact, SFW/BGF are a cancer to the hunting community, worse than any anti-hunter due to -the fact they are a bunch of deceitful, lying, backstabbing, money-grubbing, tag-stealing, brown-nosed bastages that need to be shown the door and wiped off the landscape. At the very least, you know an antis' stance on things and what to expect from them, that is far better than saying you want to kill wolves but then behind closed doors in hushed tones, try to undermine the whole damn thing. That is treasonous, of which the proper punishment is well known. Fin is a far better man than me, to know what he knows, to know whom he does, posts as much as he does in all sorts of forums, and keep it VERY PC. Jeezus.
JoseCuervo
New member
I think you pussy-footed around a bit too much. Call them "ass-clowns" like they are.
I take exception to that.
AZ402
Well-known member
Know Jones, know mancrush.
Summitthunting
Well-known member
Carrion I take offense to your "orange army" comment, I find your negative tone toward us law abiding wearers of 400sq inches of blaze orange condescending and pedantic. I expect a formal letter of apology to be sent to all members of the so called "orange army" before Payton Manning signs a contract!
:hump:
shoots-straight
Well-known member
I expect Carrion to follow me around now, and correct my PCness. I know I'm far more politically incorrect in my verbage than Fin is. If he doesn't then I'll feel un loved, and neglected if he doesn't respond in kind.
Carrion Carrier
Member
Like I said, alienate your allies. Don't be able to take constructive comments. See where that gets hunters.
Carrion Carrier
Member
Shoots-straight, I've got my eye on you buddy!
Lawnboy
Well-known member
Do a quick search on SFW/BGF and the wolf issue and see who really alienated who. Better yet one of you computer wizards post those early links to the emails and some of the more damaging info we've had from those groups to make it simple.
shoots-straight
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Thank you! I now know there's some love.
Carrion Carrier
Member
Whoa man, I am not defending these organizations. I despise them.
Carrion Carrier
Member
I was just saying that calling pro-wolfers "wolf wing nuts" just polarizes the issue more when we need to be coming together.
dmserpa
New member
Wolves
So with all this good news I've been wondering if this sheds light on the wolf issue going on in AZ and NM. They are just trying to get them established down there, so what can we do to keep them under control? Right now the wolves are protected and are just a handful, so how long before they become a threat to our wildlife and our way of life?
So with all this good news I've been wondering if this sheds light on the wolf issue going on in AZ and NM. They are just trying to get them established down there, so what can we do to keep them under control? Right now the wolves are protected and are just a handful, so how long before they become a threat to our wildlife and our way of life?
Carrion Carrier
Member
Carrion I take offense to your "orange army" comment, I find your negative tone toward us law abiding wearers of 400sq inches of blaze orange condescending and pedantic. I expect a formal letter of apology to be sent to all members of the so called "orange army" before Payton Manning signs a contract!
We don't have split seasons like you guys. I'm sure you can imagine what a zoo opening day is when deer and elk season open on the same day for everyone.
My Wife is a die hard Broncos fan. I sure hope you all get Manning. He's a great guy and a hell of a QB.
Summitthunting
Well-known member
Split season sucks, I'd take three straight weeks anyday. Just having a little fun, hunting season can't get here soon enough. I'll take Payton over Tebow, but I think he's going to end up in Tennessee.
"If mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy."
"If mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy."
Carrion - I did not realize you were referring to the term "wolf wingnuts" when you mentioned the name calling. I wouldn't change that one, if given the chance to re-do.
I know a lot of pro-wolf people who are very reasonable. Who rely on science and management. Who do not give personal traits and emotions to wolves. They are pro-wolf people, many of whom are hunters, but they are NOT wingnuts.
You can be pro-wolf, but not be a wingnut. Too imply that the term "wolf wingnut" applies to, or offends, anyone who is pro-wolf, seems incorrect.
Some would say I am pro-wolf, given I think they have a place in the equation. Though I have no use for the current debacle this unmanaged reintroduction turned into, I am willing to make sure the wolf has a place, as agreed to in the management plan.
Those who have zero concern about wolves, yet use the wolf as the facade that increases their own political power and funding, are just that, wingnuts. Hypocrites, fakes, counterfeits, or whatever term fits the person who uses an issue to further their own cause, when trying to convince others it is altruistic concern for the issue.
I know wingnuts in other areas of societal issues. Just as I know people passionate about these same societal issues who are not wingnuts. You can be passionate and not be a wingnut who is nothing more than an emotional tyrant.
In fact, I think some threads in the last month came up where politicians advocated selling public lands. I probably used the term wingnut to describe them. Most non-hunters who enjoy public lands would probably suggest I use a stronger term to describe those wanting to sell the public land.
Those serial plaintiffs in this wolf issue have no use for common sense, no use for science, no use for anyone using the landscape for anything other than what they think is appropriate. They seem to have the idea that man is not part of this natural cycle of the western landscape, though we have been since crossing the Bering land bridge.
I make a big distinction between those who are pro-wolf, some of whom I consider close friends, and those who are just that, wingnuts. I have no problem using the term wingnuts to describe those furthest on the fringe, of both fringes.
I understand your point that we need to be conscious of the impression we provide to non-hunters. That is a good point, and I think I use good discretion in how I communicate on the topics, especially around non-hunters. Yet, the context of the issue, where it is being discussed, and the intended audience all influence how the point is made. In this case, I doubt any non-hunters are negatively affected by my use of the term "wingnut."
Just my opinion, but I don' t think the non-hunting public is too concerned if hunters get fired up and call out the far fringes for what they are. If anything, in my opinion, hunters being soft and overly polite when describing those most extreme fringe elements does more damage to our cause than coming out swinging.
I appreciate you giving me cause to think about all of this. Always good input.
Carrion Carrier
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After shooting my bow this afternoon and having a little time to digest this I feel the need to apologize to Big Fin. You did a noble thing calling out these special interest yahoos and I kinda steered this thread in a direction it did not need to go.
