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Who do you trust more with public lands/who will you vote for?

Who do you trust more with public lands/who will you vote for?

  • Trump with public lands

    Votes: 39 37.5%

  • Clinton with public lands

    Votes: 45 43.3%

  • I will vote Trump

    Votes: 61 58.7%

  • I will vote Clinton

    Votes: 16 15.4%
  • Total voters
    104
Trial153 said:
You do business for 50 years and you can guarantee your will have your share of friends and foes. No matter what company and how great their reputation is they will still have their share of detractors. Quoting hit peices from a liberal rag favorite is as worthless as me quoting editorials from the weekly standard. All it does it make the poster look foolish.
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The great businessman Trump Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City will be closing it doors after Labor Day after multiple bankruptcies. I'm glad he has such a great business mind.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...c-city&usg=AFQjCNFpJp0lXbNcVe-POQk18Ztm24zQgw
 
The Taj Majal went through the first of 4 bankruptcies just one year after opening while the great business brain trump was at the helm.
 
A quarter of a century has passed since Donald Trump refused to pay in full 253 contractors who help build his Taj in Atlantic City. But for many of them, it could have happened yesterday.
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Here are 253 votes not for Trump
 
Within the last 24 hours, Hillary Clinton has proclaimed that she will raise taxes on the middle class, and just hours ago made a snide comment reaffirming what we already knew, she is anti hunting.
If Gary Johnsom can win New Mexico and pull off one other state, which is unlikely but possible, and things fall into place properly in other states, the House could end up electing the president. I'm sure they'd pick some R establishment hack too, but that sounds like a doubtful but dreamy alternative at this point.

On the other hand, I kind of want Trump to win, just to see
What will happen.
 
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If elected and given his past experience, maybe Trump would figure out a way to stiff China. :)
 
I grew up Republican, until I started studying issues, then became Independent. But I remember the conservative Republican tradition and values my family espoused. This article reminded me of that. It writes about the Trump polls and the absurdities that continue out of his mouth. But the Harvard letter, which was very well written, addressed a subject that I have seen mentioned before, the hijacking of the Republican party.

Ashamed’ of Trump, Harvard Republican Club won’t endorse top GOP nominee for first time since 1888

Here’s the Harvard Republican Club’s statement:

Dear Members and Alumni,

In every presidential election since 1888, the members and Executive Board of the Harvard Republican Club have gathered to discuss, debate, and eventually endorse the standard-bearer of our party. But for the first time in 128 years, we, the oldest College Republicans chapter in the nation, will not be endorsing the Republican nominee.

Donald Trump holds views that are antithetical to our values not only as Republicans, but as Americans. The rhetoric he espouses –from racist slander to misogynistic taunts– is not consistent with our conservative principles, and his repeated mocking of the disabled and belittling of the sacrifices made by prisoners of war, Gold Star families, and Purple Heart recipients is not only bad politics, but absurdly cruel.

If enacted, Donald Trump’s platform would endanger our security both at home and abroad. Domestically, his protectionist trade policies and draconian immigration restrictions would enlarge our federal deficit, raise prices for consumers, and throw our economy back into recession. Trump’s global outlook, steeped in isolationism, is considerably out-of-step with the traditional Republican stance as well. The flippancy with which he is willing to abdicate the United States’ responsibility to lead is alarming. Calling for the US’ withdrawal from NATO and actively endorsing nuclear proliferation, Donald Trump’s foreign policy would wreak havoc on the established world order which has held aggressive foreign powers in check since World War II.

Perhaps most importantly, however, Donald Trump simply does not possess the temperament and character necessary to lead the United States through an increasingly perilous world. The last week should have made obvious to all what has been obvious to most for more than a year. In response to any slight –perceived or real– Donald Trump lashes out viciously and irresponsibly. In Trump’s eyes, disagreement with his actions or his policies warrants incessant name calling and derision: stupid, lying, fat, ugly, weak, failing, idiot –and that’s just his “fellow” Republicans.

He isn’t eschewing political correctness. He is eschewing basic human decency.

Donald Trump, despite spending more than a year on the campaign trail, has either refused or been unable to educate himself on issues that matter most to Americans like us. He speaks only in platitudes, about greatness, success, and winning. Time and time again, Trump has demonstrated his complete lack of knowledge on critical matters, meandering from position to position over the course of the election. When confronted about these frequent reversals, Trump lies in a manner more brazen and shameless than anything politics has ever seen.

Millions of people across the country are feeling despondent. Their hours have been cut, wages slashed, jobs even shipped overseas. But Donald Trump doesn’t have a plan to fix that. He has a plan to exploit that.

Donald Trump is a threat to the survival of the Republic. His authoritarian tendencies and flirtations with fascism are unparalleled in the history of our democracy. He hopes to divide us by race, by class, and by religion, instilling enough fear and anxiety to propel himself to the White House. He is looking to to pit neighbor against neighbor, friend against friend, American against American. We will not stand for this vitriolic rhetoric that is poisoning our country and our children.

President Reagan called on us to maintain this, our shining city on a hill. He called on us to maintain freedom abroad by keeping a strong presence in the world. He called on us to maintain liberty at home by upholding the democratic process and respecting our opponents. He called on us to maintain decency in our hearts by loving our neighbor.

He would be ashamed of Donald Trump. We are too.

This fall, we will instead focus our efforts on reclaiming the Republican Party from those who have done it considerable harm, campaigning for candidates who will uphold the conservative principles that have defined the Republican Party for generations. We will work to ensure both chambers of Congress remain in Republican hands, continuing to protect against executive overreach regardless of who wins the election this November.

We call on our party’s elected leaders to renounce their support of Donald Trump, and urge our fellow College Republicans to join us in condemning and withholding their endorsement from this dangerous man. The conservative movement in America should not and will not go quietly into the night.

A longtime student of American democracy, Alexis de Tocqueville once said, “America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”

De Tocqueville believed in the United States. Americans are a decent people. We work hard, protect our own, and look out for one another in times of need, regardless of the color of our skin, the God we worship, or our party registration. Donald Trump may not believe in that America, but we do. And that America will never cease to be great.

The Harvard Republican Club
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Kat,

I do not like talking politics. Trump is my candidate. Who is the elitists here, The Harvard Republican Club or Trump? The party must change or continue to be stomped in the national elections. Trump, at this moment, is the new breath. May not be the right answer, but he is not the old answer.

The Republican party must be invigorated with new thoughts. Old school is not working!
 
The Harvard Republican club needs to look in the mirror. They are part of the reason the republican party is the shape that its in. I wouldn't give two spits for their endorsement.
 
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I once said I so despised the establishment that I was willing to cut off my nose to spite my face. I found a better analogy:

Remember back in the old days when parents used to discipline their children? Remember when they used to say "This is going to hurt me more than it's going to hurt you"? That's a more accurate assessment as far as I am concerned. The parents here are the people, and the children are the establishment. And punishment is going to hurt us more than it's going to hurt them.

We gave the establishment free reign for decades. The establishment knows the difference between right and wrong. The establishment "knew better." And yet the establishment is still inconsiderate, disrespectful, rude, unruly, selfish, greedy, self-absorbed and fighting among siblings. The establishment needs to be punished. And yes, it is going to hurt us more than it is going to hurt them. But, to a certain extent, we brought this upon ourselves through our failure to discipline the establishment and teach it how to respect others.

The establishment, siblings, are the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, the Corporate Media and those who own all three. We, the people, are the parents. Donald Trump is the paddle. Upon seeing the paddle, the establishment was at first in denial, then defiant. But as the paddle approaches, the establishment is kicking and screaming and whining, "No, No, No! I promise I won't do it again! I promise I will be better! I promise I will mind! I promise we will get along with each other!" So afraid is the establishment that it now unites against the paddle, trying to reason, argue, defend, negotiate, squirm and struggle together.

I can guaran-fking-tee you it is going to hurt us more than it is going to hurt the establishment. After all, they are spoiled brats that we are too easy on, and they are going to pout and sulk, and cry and make our lives miserable. They will try and take their ball and run away from home. And they will make us suffer for having to do this. After all, we don't like the paddle either. But we've heard the promises before. We've tried "time out". We've calmly, quietly, politely tried to reason with the establishment. Too late.

So, with this analogy, here's what I think you should do: Every time you hear/see someone like this Harvard outfit, or Clinton, or a talking head on T.V., or a party hack, or a Republican, or some GD "expert" on international affairs or trade or diplomacy or any other person ragging on Donald, I want you to see a child in fear of the paddle. See someone who knew better, who knew right from wrong, a spoiled brat who's afraid of what's coming because they know they might just be getting it if they don't bring their "A Game", cry and bargain hard.

I will be voting for Jill Stein but I really don't care if Trump wins. All I care is that the child learns a lesson. It may be too late.

End rant.
 
James Riley.

Great post.

I still remember 35 years ago, my Mom busting my ass and saying this hurts you more than me. I had welts for a month and deserved everyone of them, Love Mom!
 
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