jryoung
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Canis lupus irretardless
What is a wolf lover?
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cantgetdrawn
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You are so far off. The average is 150 pounds easy. And they have 3 litters a year.
There is a picture of a kill on the wall at Sportsmans Warehouse in Helena. Says 175 pounds!!!
I have a siberian husky who is a ball of fur and weights about 60# and a Lab that weights about 80#. The wolf in the NRA facebook page could easily could easily weight double my lab, so unless the guy holding him up is 5 foot tall I would not doubt that he is over 150#.
Lawnboy
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I ran into a friend from high school who got one during rifle season. Unless I heard wrong he said it was a 170 pounder and was just massive. It was with a few others and after he shot it the others came back to see what happened to big hank and they shot another one. I probably would doubt the weight but knowing this guy and the fact he's a veterinarian has me believing.
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The heaviest , substantiated, wolf ever weighed was 176 pounds.
I don't doubt there are outliers, there are with everything. But read carefully, I said avg. The average wolf killed in this state is something like 90 pounds.
You want to take a stab at the weight of this? How does this one compare to the one in the facebook link? My friend trapped this one this year, and I know what the scale said.
I don't doubt there are outliers, there are with everything. But read carefully, I said avg. The average wolf killed in this state is something like 90 pounds.
You want to take a stab at the weight of this? How does this one compare to the one in the facebook link? My friend trapped this one this year, and I know what the scale said.
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drahthaar
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Here are some numbers for those interested.
http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=wildlifenews.view_article&articles_id=503
It's just amazing how many 150-200 pound wolves are spotted from kitchen windows here in the lower 48. Must be those Canadian wolves that also got genetically engineered by MT FWP, to eat all the elk and deer so they can have budget problems after nobody wants to hunt MT anymore. Makes sense to me.....
http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=wildlifenews.view_article&articles_id=503
It's just amazing how many 150-200 pound wolves are spotted from kitchen windows here in the lower 48. Must be those Canadian wolves that also got genetically engineered by MT FWP, to eat all the elk and deer so they can have budget problems after nobody wants to hunt MT anymore. Makes sense to me.....
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jryoung
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Was shocked at how big this print was from October. Was hoping I would get to see this guy. The cartridge is a 30-06 with 180gr pill.
Elkmagnet
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If only this had happened.
El Jason
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Interestingly enough, the average weights of the wolves being killed in Idaho, Montana and Wyoming fall right into the range of the "original native Timber Wolf" as given on the Lobowatch webpage.
I thought that was pretty funny. So much for Toby's allegations of 150 pound superwolves.
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The heaviest , substantiated, wolf ever weighed was 176 pounds.
I don't doubt there are outliers, there are with everything. But read carefully, I said avg. The average wolf killed in this state is something like 90 pounds.
You want to take a stab at the weight of this? How does this one compare to the one in the facebook link? My friend trapped this one this year, and I know what the scale said.
Looking at the wolf I'd say 90-100#, but the way the guys in the pic are struggling to hold him up I'd say about 250.
shoots-straight
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The heaviest , substantiated, wolf ever weighed was 176 pounds.
I don't doubt there are outliers, there are with everything. But read carefully, I said avg. The average wolf killed in this state is something like 90 pounds.
You want to take a stab at the weight of this? How does this one compare to the one in the facebook link? My friend trapped this one this year, and I know what the scale said.
Those two men in the pictures should be quarantined right away. Within a short period of time alien cysts will jump right out of their chests. "Lobo Watch " circa 2010 data.
BigHornRam
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You have bad memory Shoot's. The bet was not won by either one of us. You said delisting would happen that year. I said it would be at least 2 years. Delisting happened in one year. Then they were relisted.
I am pretty much in agreement with all the well thought out comments on this thread reguarding wolves. My problem with you and Buzz was your anti-livestock rhetoric that you brought to the debate. Pretty much a waste of time debating you on anything, Shoot's.
shoots-straight
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I'm not anti livestock, I'm pro elk. I think 1.23$ per AUM is ridiculous. Does that make me anti livestock?
You aren't here anymore just a lurker, I don't see you discussing anything with anyone. Your non existent and a non factor.
katqanna
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While I have never hunted a wolf, back in Texas, I did have to take out a coyote once (and a four dozen herd of feral pigs) and from a landowner perspective, occasionally raising some organic sheep or goats, as well as your pets and young children, I did have to deal with some lethal removals. I prefer predators as predators on the landscape. Wolves are great scavengers, which I appreciate from a holistic ecosystem perspective, especially in cases of disease, like brucellosis. In fact, around the Wyoming feed grounds, they did studies and found that by protecting wolves, coyotes and red foxes they significantly reduced the opportunities of potential brucellosis transmissions from abortions. So now they are protected around feedgrounds.
But, my biggest problem, and that of the nearby ranchers, were not coyotes or other predators (we had a mountain lion once), it was the bloody feral dog packs that have no fear of humans (couldnt use any preventative methods on them). They were far more dangerous than any wildlife I have encountered, regularly went on true killing sprees at a nearby neighbors cattle ranch, killing calves and cows, not eating the meat. I had to take out several of those dogs on my property. I know people look at all dogs as pets, but these were not pets, they were like the human gangs in cities that kill for pleasure and because they look civilized, have knowledge of human habitations, they are far more of a threat.
This article just came up concerning wolves. In October, I hosted a presentation in Bozeman, of multiple stake holders on tools for coexistence between livestock and large carnivores. Hilary Zaranek, along with FWP's Abbey Nelson, wolf biologist, spoke about the program that Hilary has been working. Zaranek is a cattle rancher in Paradise Valley. She is also a range rider and they have been preventing predation with a variety of methods.
Montana Ranchers Learn Ways To Live With Wolves
But, my biggest problem, and that of the nearby ranchers, were not coyotes or other predators (we had a mountain lion once), it was the bloody feral dog packs that have no fear of humans (couldnt use any preventative methods on them). They were far more dangerous than any wildlife I have encountered, regularly went on true killing sprees at a nearby neighbors cattle ranch, killing calves and cows, not eating the meat. I had to take out several of those dogs on my property. I know people look at all dogs as pets, but these were not pets, they were like the human gangs in cities that kill for pleasure and because they look civilized, have knowledge of human habitations, they are far more of a threat.
This article just came up concerning wolves. In October, I hosted a presentation in Bozeman, of multiple stake holders on tools for coexistence between livestock and large carnivores. Hilary Zaranek, along with FWP's Abbey Nelson, wolf biologist, spoke about the program that Hilary has been working. Zaranek is a cattle rancher in Paradise Valley. She is also a range rider and they have been preventing predation with a variety of methods.
Montana Ranchers Learn Ways To Live With Wolves
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I'm saying 105. That's a gorgeous wolf though.
It's always good on these threads to remind everyone to not put your mouth on or around a wolf's anus so you don't get tapeworms.
So please, do not put your mouth on or around a wolf's anus.
shoots-straight
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Buck 35....big diffference.
Great I haven't been paying attention. That does make me re-evaluate my position. Not!
Great I haven't been paying attention. That does make me re-evaluate my position. Not!
It is easy to remember. Twenty-eight years ago there was an EO that it couldn't be under $1.35. Here were are.
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