Western MT Archery

MTELKGUY1

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Hey guys,

First post to the forum, but have been a viewer for a long time. I've hunted elk for many years but just started archery hunting about 5 years ago. I'm curious as to what the Montana archery elk hunters think this year will be like. We had a long winter and late spring, but after recent temperatures and low humidity, it looks like things will be pretty dry come start of archery (recent fire activity shows that). Opening day looks like the moon will be 42% illuminated and 100% illumination taking place on the 12-13. From my experience and talking with other guys, the "magic" day takes place on or around Sept15-18. Even with all this said, I know it's not the end of the world and anything can happen. The elk are still out there, our tactics just need to be adjusted. I know some of you think the guys who go out opening weekend are crazy, but my bow needs to go for a walk, and if I see some wildlife while I'm out, even better.

I am hunting a new area this year and will mostly be "checking it out" for that first weekend. I've done some scouting and so far like what I've seen. If the conditions are what is predicted and as mentioned above, here's what I'll be trying:

A) I'll stick to the north facing slopes and drainages The best grass is located here, and its where we'll most likely find water. After a long hot day, the elk will likely be moving toward those areas later in the evening. Which leads to...

B) Hunt when the elk are most active If it will be as hot as I think it will be, the elk will feed at night under the moon. I drove through Lincoln early in the morning two days ago and it was 31 degrees when I fueled there. Hot days and cold nights, the evening and early morning hunts look like a good time to be out and about. If I can find the elk and know where they're bedded during the day, I may sneak in close (1-200 yards) and see if I can cow call something out. Other than that, you won't find this guy running around bugling every 15 min on opening weekend like most of the yahoos out there.

C) Cow calls The bulls will be curious, as they will be starting to think about rutting. I've had success imitating cows and cows in estrus. I like hunting with at least one partner and if setup 100 yards from each other, we'll cow call back and forth to each other. I've called in elk early in the season doing this, but usually they came in quite and each time caught me by surprise and unprepared.

Anyhow, those are a few of the tactics I'll be using. I'd love to hear feedback on what you think and what other ideas or tactics you have.

For what its worth, I will be on public land with an over the counter tag. Occasionally there are other hunters in the area, as it is a short drive from nearby towns.

Thanks guys, I look forward to hearing feedback.



MTELKGUY1
 
Sheesh, over 100 views and still no feedback or comments? I know there are several of you on here that hunt Western Montana. Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? :)
 
sounds like a good plan to me.I don't know what kind of feedback your looking for
 
I don't think so hard about it, north slope, south slope, moon phase, first estrous, second estrous, etc, etc.

I would suggest getting elknuts' playbook and try learning the sounds and situations as best as you can, but I still have a hard time relating it to those to the real life "things" going on. I am not an expert by any means, obviously.

I just think you go, put yourself out there as much as you can. Lay some boot trax on the ground and go where you find them, if you know what I mean. When it happens, it will be so easy its stupid. When that bull is ready, he's ready.

As my general rule, early season, at least up here in nw mt, I think these bulls like to talk. Its big, steep, brushy country, they don't run into each other very much, but they can sure communicate across these basins. I guess I tend to be one of the yahoos thowing out some locator bugles early morning and late evening. I locate one and get close as I can. Seems like shaking alder bushes does as much as cow calling with these "brush bulls". They will come over to size me up.

Later on, more mid Sept, I think the cow calling will get these guys talking pretty well, that is where the "playbook" get muddled in my mind and in the past I think I was too cautious. Lately I have been more aggressive and having better luck with challenge bugles in close.
 
If you're doing anything in the area of Lincoln, make sure the water sources are still available. I used to hunt that area and have since left it behind. I don't think it gets crowded really, just totally dry around the time period you're talking about. When I say dry I mean almost bone dry. Also, I've seen a lot of activity far sooner and later then the dates you specified. I know you realize this, you mentioned it, but just giving my thoughts. I have my own "secret dates" that the elk are hot and heavy, but when the first good frost starts to hit and August is nearing an end....it's on!! You definitely have a great plan though. Honestly, if scouted and liked what you saw....getter DUN!
 
I don't want to give you the impression that there aren't any elk in the area at that time though. I did some spring bear hunting just off Rt 200 last year and twice ran into very large herds of elk....it was AWESOME!!
 
@drahthaar- I agree, even the best laid plan can be thrown out the window the first hour of the season. However, I am very thorough at recording my encounters with elk in my hunt journal (times, weather, maps, etc) and there are certainly patterns that coincide with the things mentioned (north slope, estrous, moon phase, etc). Not that I am afraid to put in the time and miles hiking, its just I try to hunt smarter not harder. Don't get me wrong though, the elk are always out there and if possible so am I no matter the conditions.

@DreaminofMT6x6- At some point this year I will probably do some hunting closer to Lincoln (all of my archery hunting is within 100 miles of there). My best area there has been pretty good to me and the guys I hunt with. I'll hit it if the new area doesn't turn anything up. You are spot on with the water situation. Lots of looking at topos and satellite imagery before I found a spot... and guess where... North facing drainage. I plan to go out in the next week to check all of the water holes and see what has dried up and what's still producing.

I hope the temperatures drop and we start getting frost early on. I like the dry day conditions as I haven't had much luck early season in the rain. Cold nights, warm days... Cant wait!!!
 
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