joelweb
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I don't know many Californians in Missoula. It seems like most of our newcomers are from Washington state, the midwest and east coast. At least the people I know.
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I don't know many Californians in Missoula. It seems like most of our newcomers are from Washington state, the midwest and east coast. At least the people I know.
How did you climb to 49%? I’m at 20-25 tops
WHAT? And be proud of that and be resentful of others not born coming in? Sheesh. mtmuley
With all due MTTW, being born here does mean something. At least to me. My grandmother, born here also, always said "you can't take the Montana out of you." mtmuley
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Frankly it doesn't matter a whit to me. There are a bazillion things more important about a person than where they are born. I've been here nearing 40 years, I'll never be native born. My kids and grandkids are, I'm neither less than or more than them.
It's sort of juvenile to be hung up about something that no one has any control over.
"Juvenile"? Maybe. I'm proud to be a born Montanan. Maybe you don't understand. Call it what you want. Why shouldn't I be proud to have landed in Shelby, Montana 54 years ago today? mtmuley
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Happy birthday then. It's when you think it makes you better than anyone born anywhere else that is juvenile. So what exactly did you do that made you native born. Seems to me the credit if any, belongs to your mom and dad.
I was born in Montana. I'm not better. mtmuley
Losing_Sanity
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Boise used to be a pretty nice place. It has since become "L.A." with increased violent crime, drugs, and over population. They have out grown their infrastructure at an alarming rate and become a "big city", they have gotten away from being a community. All you have to do is read a news paper to realize the true impact. Sad really!
I am curious on the effect of winter on the newly arrived Montanans. Maybe a long cold winter or two, and better yet, throw in considerable wind, and voila! They vanish. I would.
I enjoy visiting a week or so in the spring, and a week or so in the fall, but I don’t find winter and probably mid summer (northern) Montana weather appealing whatsoever.
I enjoy visiting a week or so in the spring, and a week or so in the fall, but I don’t find winter and probably mid summer (northern) Montana weather appealing whatsoever.
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I kind of figured along these lines. Just seems a shame to gauge the state by one City, even if it might be the largest. Some areas (e.g. Salmon) struck me as some of the best in the U.S.
Many of the people I encountered in my travels seemed like some of the nicest I've ever met. Awful that this virtue might be cause of the root problem that newcomers might be inclined to disrespect and walk all over established norms.
Migration will continue as sure as the sun will rise tommorow. I hope that ways can be found to explain that kindness shouldn't be taken for weakness, as way too many are standing by to take advantage.
LuketheDog
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I bet those oysters aren't local, I sure as heck wouldn't eat the shellfish from anywhere between Santa Monica and Newport Beach
Straight Arrow
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'Recently purchased a kayak from a retired physician from the Bay Area, who moved to Montana several years ago. He and his wife embraced the outdoors, designed and built a really cool secluded place in the hills of a gated rural community. However, they have now sold the place and are returning to an urban condo back in San Francisco. I think you are correct; the winter and wind "erode" the enthusiasm for the Montana adventure after a few years. That is likely why there are so many mega million dollar mansions on acreage for sale as retired folks build their huge dream house "cabin-in-the-woods" only to realize the hardships of winter and spring runoff in Montana. What seems wasteful to me is that those "estates" often sit on the realty market for long periods, because if one has that kind of wealth why would they buy someone else's dream when they can clear another forest lot and build their own mega millions mansion dream?!
BigHornRam
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Unfortunately very true reality S A. This winter has been very mild so far. I can still drive in to do my forestry work as of yesterday. Ok snow pack up high though. Last winter was the same way until heavy snows in February brought us back to reality.
noharleyyet
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Just wait til those Hi tech Cali's meet Jose, they'll know they've found Nirvana.
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One observation I've made many years ago is that the prime consideration for building a home for homesteading ranchers was getting some sort of wind break by building at the base of a hill side. Nearly all of the newer mansions are placed on a high ridge line to capture as much view as possible. That is also a great location for feeling the full brunt of the wind. I shake my head a bit at that.
greatwhitebuffalo
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Don't forget that Montana mountain livin' attracts those of modest means as well...
helenair.com
Montana Historical Society eyes Unabomber cabin after D.C. museum displaying it plans to close
After being on display for at least a decade in a Washington, D.C., museum, the cabin where Unabomber Theodore Kaczynski lived outside Lincoln is set to return to the possession
BigHornRam
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I've heard those sites jokingly referred to as "Sound of Music" lots. Shows on TV and social media are not helping out with this latest trend.
Don't forget that Montana mountain livin' attracts those of modest means as well...
Montana Historical Society eyes Unabomber cabin after D.C. museum displaying it plans to close
After being on display for at least a decade in a Washington, D.C., museum, the cabin where Unabomber Theodore Kaczynski lived outside Lincoln is set to return to the possession
Eaten by a bear, surrounded by woofs, livin' next to the Unabomber, or a militia compound. May as well just let everyone know you're taking your life into your own hands by moving to MT.
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