@Dubz337
Keep in mind that my first couple of posts were not in reply to you or directed at you specifically. I never stated in my post that the things I was saying were facts. I was clearly stating my opinions. Nevertheless . . .
- My sources were academic, yours were not. Take your choice as it ultimately doesn't matter to me because my OPINIONS are in no way based on, or impacted by, which substance has been used longest. I dislike them both equally and feel that recreational use of both are a net negative on society.
- My point was poking fun at the common use of pointing to a worse thing to pass off a given thing as relatively harmless comparatively that crops up in many arguments. It appears to crop up here too. Nothing more, nothing else.
- Yes, a personal theory never stated as otherwise. Actually originally posted as a question only answerable in the future. Though I am stating as fact that all groups contain terrible people.
- Yes, a personal theory never stated as otherwise.
- Yay, agreement.
- Generally correct. Though I'd admit that secluded campfires are not exactly "public" as I'm sure you recognize. I've been pretty clear from the get go that my PERSONAL BELIEF is that society as a whole would be better without any of those things. I've not come after weed in particular at any point, though I did refer to regular users as often annoying and willing to die on the hill of convincing others to agree with them, regardless of the actual argument or indifference presented.
Fair enough. I mean, the only point I was trying to make is that you can find many different academic resources which will contradict the academic resource you used, it’s hard to pin down dates on stuff that happened before recorded history
I am of the belief that cannabis in some forms, and depending on the age of the user of course, has no real demonstrative negative effects, and a lot of the things thrown out against it come from old disproven ideas, indoctrinations, and people’s personal beliefs and anecdotes about it. And that there is far more qualified data that shows the harm of something widely accepted and used, which is alcohol.
I agree, there are terrible people who use weed, just like there are terrible people who use alcohol, or cigarettes, or keyboard cleaner. The thing I’m wondering is, does weed have a hand in making them terrible, as alcohol has proven to do? Like I said, I haven’t heard one story yet where weed was a driving factor in domestic violence, or assault, or even murder. Alcohol has played a role in all those so many times it’s regularly considered as a factor in legal punishment of such acts.
I’m not trying to convince anybody here, and it’s very clear that some people just have stigmas that will not be changed no matter what happens. Been cool to start a thread that’s gotten so big, but the last ten pages plus have just seemed like a merry go round of the same things being argued about.
