The background checks are a joke. It’s all paper based. And if they get behind and the check can’t be done in the time window, you get the gun anyway. Very few of the offenders were rejected in a background check. As a law-abiding gun owner, which im sure we all are, the background check shouldn’t be a concern or be view as some violation to the 2A.
Purely ignorant argument. They are not comparable in any way. You’re reaching, which just shows you are having trouble in a legitimate debate on the topic.
Partly joking, but good thing you’re not on the receiving end of a domestic violence relationship where you’ve got a restraining order against the agressor and moved out, and theyre in jail but due to be released on $250 bond, saying they’re going to kill you this weekend. If you’re in some metropolitan areas, calling 911 means nothing you’re on you’re own. (Defund the police and “new progressive” DAs are to thank for that.)
I don’t think you have any idea what you are talking about (Much like the OP on Busse not being willing to answer questions.) There are laws in place that prevent a centralized database. So the system was created in the best way it could be, pre computers as we know they today. If you are interested in allowing the creation of a database that could clear a person for gun purchase in minutes, please contact your congressional reps. I could support that. Anything that weeds out the crazy is good.
Some article I posted a few pages ago discussed how the NCIS system can be strengthened.
All that happened in a 10day window? Wow. That sucks.bad picker I guess.
Definitely not a problem lots of folks let out because jail is inhumane
www.latimes.com
Holy shit! I jumped into this thread 15 pages ago to say this literally isn’t true. I’m out in your posts. You can’t keep up and it’s frustrating me.
Bull. They are let out because we don’t want to pay to build more jails. I would rather work on keeping the (alleged) domestic violence offender from having a gun than making sure the victim can get one quickly. But I also admit there is some people that would falsely allege domestic violence where it didn’t exist. Therein lies the problem. More guns don’t solve any of it.
Regarding trust it can affect both sides. I probably said this before because I like to hear myself talk, but after the new firearm control ballot initiative passed here in Oregon, some people “on the left” (trying to be nonconfrontational here), were worried about the provision that local law enforcement are in charge of determining whether someone could obtain a “permit to purchase” a firearm.
I get what you’re saying, but the false allegations of domestic violence is why red flag laws can be problematic. (Maybe you were inferring that.)
Sure, but why when it is so easy to get a gun.
Because face tattoos?Sure, but why when it is so easy to get a gun.
I think you highlight an important chasm in the gun-control vs. gun-rights discussion. Many in the gun-control camp do not believe people have any sort of inherent right to self-defense or defense of loved ones. Hence the wave of safe storage laws in many states that render many firearms useless in a defensive scenario. I recognize that many gun owners have to balance this with keeping firearms out of the hands of children and others. In a modern society, some believe we have a duty to retreat when faced with a threat to our lives or loved ones. In theory we are to be pacifists, left at the mercy of violent criminals. I don’t personally ascribe to this logic but it renders ineffective the domestic abuse reasoning against waiting periods with many gun control advocates.
