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[jimh406]

I guess we have a different idea about what very few means.

However, there is an effort to slow it down, so does that mean the people causing less arrests are happy?

 

[BrentD]

I guess we have a different idea about what very few means.

However, there is an effort to slow it down, so does that mean the people causing less arrests are happy?

Nobody is happy up here.

Would you be happy if a bunch of armed masked unidentified people were running around tackling people, smashing cars, and driving people out of their cars and then disappearing them?

If you think janet reno's jack booted, thugs were bad, trump's private army of revenge blows them out of the water.

 

[shootbrownelk]

Exactly. This point has been made repeatedly here withdocumentation..and that includes video, and now hundreds and growing numbers of judges ordering detainees to be released.

Corrupt, Liberal Judges are a problem as well.

 

[jimh406]

Would you be happy if a bunch of armed masked unidentified people were running around tackling people, smashing cars, and driving people out of their cars and then disappearing them?

I wouldn't be happy if random citizens were blocking roads and harassing people doing their jobs either.

Some of us read that similar officers go into other cities/states without much of an issue. I could be wrong, but there seems to be something very specific about Minneapolis/MN.

 

[Labman]

Nobody is happy up here.

Would you be happy if a bunch of armed masked unidentified people were running around tackling people, smashing cars, and driving people out of their cars and then disappearing them?

If you think janet reno's jack booted, thugs were bad, trump's private army of revenge blows them out of the water.

Nobody?

All of my friends in MN/MSP are ecstatic. You should expand your friend list.

 

[406dn]

Nobody?

All of my friends in MN/MSP are ecstatic. You should expand your friend list.

As should you, perhaps.

I don't have a problem with deporting people who entered the country illegally. I do have a problem with how it is being done. Where it gets complicated is when they have been in the country for a long time. They get married, have children, and have woven themselves into a community.

I think that the aggressive, at times violent, tactics are a feature, not a bug in the ICE operations. The miscalculation was the administration thought that public sentiment would be with them. They did not leave the Twin Cities because the mission was completed. They left to staunch the political damage it was causing.

 

[Nuts]

As should you, perhaps.

I don't have a problem with deporting people who entered the country illegally. I do have a problem with how it is being done. Where it gets complicated is when they have been in the country for a long time. They get married, have children, and have woven themselves into a community.

I think that the aggressive, at times violent, tactics are a feature, not a bug in the ICE operations. The miscalculation was the administration thought that public sentiment would be with them. They did not leave the Twin Cities because the mission was completed. They left to staunch the political damage it was causing.

Do you think that the tactics used could have been much different had local law enforcement and leadership cooperated? It seams logical if they have a detain order and are in police custody they should not be released to let ICE chase them. That alone would save tax payers money and ICE having to go in and get them from the neighborhood. Might just be me. Just my thought when I read about these cities refusing to allow LE to cooperate. Logically you can't say if you want them go find them then complain about the presence. It wasn't needed if you hadn't released them. I am sure this is not every situation. But it could resolve a portion.

 

[Bonasababy]

Corrupt, Liberal Judges are a problem as well.

Wow...

Orwellian.

Of course many of those judges...as posted right here before...were appointed by republican administrations.

 

[Labman]

As should you, perhaps.

I don't have a problem with deporting people who entered the country illegally. I do have a problem with how it is being done. Where it gets complicated is when they have been in the country for a long time. They get married, have children, and have woven themselves into a community.

I think that the aggressive, at times violent, tactics are a feature, not a bug in the ICE operations. The miscalculation was the administration thought that public sentiment would be with them. They did not leave the Twin Cities because the mission was completed. They left to staunch the political damage it was causing.

I’ve got enough of those types in my family.

 

[406dn]

Do you think that the tactics used could have been much different had local law enforcement and leadership cooperated? It seams logical if they have a detain order and are in police custody they should not be released to let ICE chase them. That alone would save tax payers money and ICE having to go in and get them from the neighborhood. Might just be me. Just my thought when I read about these cities refusing to allow LE to cooperate. Logically you can't say if you want them go find them then complain about the presence. It wasn't needed if you hadn't released them. I am sure this is not every situation. But it could resolve a portion.

ICE's presence in Chicago did not go well either.

Maybe, just maybe it is on both the feds and the state and local authorities to come to some sort of agreement, before you send in thousands of masked quasi law enforcement/ military personnel.

If the goal is to deport undocumented people, maybe start with the lowest fruit on the tree. Then go to the more difficult situations. Public sentiment might have been different if they had removed a few million, without incident, then had to deal with less cooperative locations.

I think the Twin Cities was chosen for a few political reasons. Trump has extreme distain for Ilhan Omar. The fraud case involves the Somali community. Trump also dislikes the governor. It most definitely was not an efficient use of public funds. The cost per person apprehended was very high.

 

[406dn]

I’ve got enough of those types in my family.

They have to deal with you too.

 

[SaskHunter]

If I were a super rich asshole with lots of pull, I would 100% make sure the masses are distracted with ridiculous crap to keep their focus off of me and my baby-eating pals.

 

[brymoore]

States know the number.

Idaho estimates 28,700 illegals with most working in Ag. Economic loss to the state if all illegal ag workers are removed is $5.1B. Great Recession level economic loss.

https://www.idahofb.org/media/5lujjf0g/2025_iwic_fact_sheet_final_v6.pdf

 

[Bonasababy]

Do you think that the tactics used could have been much different had local law enforcement and leadership cooperated? It seams logical if they have a detain order and are in police custody they should not be released to let ICE chase them. That alone would save tax payers money and ICE having to go in and get them from the neighborhood. Might just be me. Just my thought when I read about these cities refusing to allow LE to cooperate. Logically you can't say if you want them go find them then complain about the presence. It wasn't needed if you hadn't released them. I am sure this is not every situation. But it could resolve a portion.

Theres are fundamental misunderstandings here. Law enforcement authority and standard practice misunderstandings.

Immigration law violations are civil, not criminal...violations. As such, local law enforcement often has no authority to enforce them.

Criminal violations are criminal no matter whether it involves an immigrant or not. All LE agencies can and do enforce them...on immigrants. If they arrest someone on a criminal violation they also routinely notify federal immigration officials if they know the person is an immigrant without legal papers allowing them to be in this country.

When immigrants jailed on criminal violations serve their time, federal immigration officials are notified before they are released. Local LE releases those here illegally to the Feds all the time.

All of this was happening and never changed even in MPls and St. Paul!

The Trump administration repeatedly lies about this. There always was, still is, and will be in the future cooperation on "the worst of the worst" criminals.

They want more than that.

Ask the taxpayers of Maricopa county AZ how that turns out.

 

[Bonasababy]

States know the number.

Idaho estimates 28,700 illegals with most working in Ag. Economic loss to the state if all illegal ag workers are removed is $5.1B. Great Recession level economic loss.

https://www.idahofb.org/media/5lujjf0g/2025_iwic_fact_sheet_final_v6.pdf

Minnesota...despite far fewer immigrants... is dealing with this right now.

https://www.startribune.com/minnesota-farm-worker-labor-shortage-immigration-undocumented-foreign-agriculture-temporary-visa/601575517?utm_source=gift

 

[BrentD]

Corrupt, Liberal Judges are a problem as well.

Why do you say that? They're actually following the laws. I suppose they're sort of funny that way.

 

[Bonasababy]

ICE's presence in Chicago did not go well either.

Maybe, just maybe it is on both the feds and the state and local authorities to come to some sort of agreement, before you send in thousands of masked quasi law enforcement/ military personnel.

If the goal is to deport undocumented people, maybe start with the lowest fruit on the tree. Then go to the more difficult situations. Public sentiment might have been different if they had removed a few million, without incident, then had to deal with less cooperative locations.

I think the Twin Cities was chosen for a few political reasons. Trump has extreme distain for Ilhan Omar. The fraud case involves the Somali community. Trump also dislikes the governor. It most definitely was not an efficient use of public funds. The cost per person apprehended was very high.

The cost per person deported is astronomical.

 

[Bonasababy]

ICE's presence in Chicago did not go well either.

Maybe, just maybe it is on both the feds and the state and local authorities to come to some sort of agreement, before you send in thousands of masked quasi law enforcement/ military personnel.

If the goal is to deport undocumented people, maybe start with the lowest fruit on the tree. Then go to the more difficult situations. Public sentiment might have been different if they had removed a few million, without incident, then had to deal with less cooperative locations.

I think the Twin Cities was chosen for a few political reasons. Trump has extreme distain for Ilhan Omar. The fraud case involves the Somali community. Trump also dislikes the governor. It most definitely was not an efficient use of public funds. The cost per person apprehended was very high.

And we didnt vote for Trump in 16.

 

[Nuts]

Theres are fundamental misunderstandings here. Law enforcement authority and standard practice misunderstandings.

Immigration law violations are civil, not criminal...violations. As such, local law enforcement often has no authority to enforce them.

Criminal violations are criminal no matter whether it involves an immigrant or not. All LE agencies can and do enforce them...on immigrants. If they arrest someone on a criminal violation they also routinely notify federal immigration officials if they know the person is an immigrant without legal papers allowing them to be in this country.

When immigrants jailed on criminal violations serve their time, federal immigration officials are notified before they are released. Local LE releases those here illegally to the Feds all the time.

All of this was happening and never changed even in MPls and St. Paul!

The Trump administration repeatedly lies about this. There always was, still is, and will be in the future cooperation on "the worst of the worst" criminals.

They want more than that.

As the taxpayers of Maricopa county AZ how that turns out.

I actually read this with an open mind and appreciated the perspective. Not being aware that immigration laws are civil and not criminal I googled it an read the articles. What I found if accurate is entering the country illegally is criminal. Overstaying a visa is civil. If true why would you leave that out? Seams like an important detail. Unless I am not reading what you wrote properly.

 

[Bonasababy]

Here's how a state with one of the biggest illegal immigration problems is handling "cooperation" with ICE

Arizona Police Agencies Were Once at the Forefront of Local Immigration Enforcement. Now Most Are Avoiding It.

In January, the Trump administration launched a national recruitment campaign to deploy local officers as deportation agents. It has added more than 900 agencies, but only four in Arizona have signed on.

www.propublica.org