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[Hunting Wife]

Its no secret democratic politician would like nothing more to shut down hunting and to act as though it's not an issue is hilarious. This idea is being pushed by the far left.

States run by democrats are the only place these ideas can be pushed and actually get on the ballot......

Washington closed spring bear, strictly a political move by democrats even though the science said the population was healthy and was very strictly limited as it was.

This is a issue for democrats that needs addressed and just brushing it off is not going to slow it down

Not brushing it off. Just sick of some people’s total inability to not slap a label on every little thing. The world is much more nuanced.

 

[Archer86]

Not brushing it off. Just sick of some people’s total inability to not slap a label on every little thing. The world is much more nuanced.

I disagree with the not brushing it off seams that is done alot around here when democrats attack hunting and fishing

 

[El Jason]

I disagree with the not brushing it off seams that is done alot around here when democrats attack hunting and fishing

Examples?

 

[WildWill]

Examples?

Colorado seems to be enough of a example. What Polis has done in the last 7 years and continues to do to hunting in that state is extremely concerning.

 

[El Jason]

Colorado seems to be enough of an example. What Polis has done in the last 7 years and continues to do to hunting in that state is extremely concerning.

Sorry, I was looking for examples of people brushing it off. I’m well aware of Colorado and Washington.

 

[Archer86]

Examples?

Hunting Wife said:
Unless I missed where the Democrat party endorsed this, it seems fairly disingenuous to categorize this as an idea from “democrats”. More like the crazy animal rights folks, of which I personally know some from both political persuasions who are equally delusional about “saving animals”.

To act like whats going on in Oregon isn't coming from democrats is a great example didnt even have to go look.

Colorado, washington,Oregon, California all great examples of states that would like nothing more then to eliminate hunting, fishing,

 

[Straight Arrow]

Not brushing it off. Just sick of some people’s total inability to not slap a label on every little thing. The world is much more nuanced.

Yes, it irks to the point of dismissing opinions many times. If you are an R and you dislike something, it must have been done by the D's. If you are a D and you dislike something, it must have been done by the R's. This type of binary thinking marks one as simple minded. It takes logic, reasoning, rationale thinking ... and sometimes further research ... to sort through the nuances and arrive at a respectable opinion.

 

[El Jason]

Colorado, washington,Oregon, California all great examples of states that would like nothing more then to eliminate hunting, fishing,

I don’t want to speak for hunting wife, but assigning this ideology to every Democrat in the states you listed is where the disagreement comes from. I know a fair number of Democrats that have absolutely no interest in ending hunting or fishing. To assign this to them as a whole makes about as much sense of saying all Republicans want to curtail second amendment rights because of Trump‘s recent comments on carrying guns.

You are 100% correct in saying these ideas stem from someone who is a Democrat. However, that does not align the whole group with their way of thinking.

Washington currently has a Democratic governor that is quite frankly doing a pretty good job of realigning the fishing wildlife commission with people who view hunting and fishing in a more scientific in pragmatic way.

Maybe the point you were trying to make has been lost in translation.

 

[NDGuy]

A larger more prosperous middle class will do more for this country than cheaper products.

I am middle class.
-My wife and I both work full time (myself at a top 10 US company)
-My groceries have gone up 50% in 6 years
-A used lower mileage pickup now costs 25-30k
-I spend $2,600/mo on daycare for 2 about a 40% increase since we began at the daycare.
-My AC/Furnace cost went from $4200 when I put it in my last home in 2019 to $10,800 in my new home with the exact same size/unit/manufacturer
-My insurance rates for my home are about 30% higher since I moved in 4 years ago

Real purchasing power is eroding, even for households with stable employment. How are tariffs and the other asinine policies being put in place helping me by making everything more expensive? Oh, forgot to mention attacking or succeeding at rolling back protections on wild places and water.

And with all this the cherry on top of the shit sandwich is the world powers seem to be run by a cabal of serial child rapists and demonic individuals that are untouchable.

 

[Nuts]

I am middle class.
-My wife and I both work full time (myself at a top 10 US company)
-My groceries have gone up 50% in 6 years
-A used lower mileage pickup now costs 25-30k
-I spend $2,600/mo on daycare for 2 about a 40% increase since we began at the daycare.
-My AC/Furnace cost went from $4200 when I put it in my last home in 2019 to $10,800 in my new home with the exact same size/unit/manufacturer
-My insurance rates for my home are about 30% higher since I moved in 4 years ago

Real purchasing power is eroding, even for households with stable employment. How are tariffs and the other asinine policies being put in place helping me by making everything more expensive? Oh, forgot to mention attacking or succeeding at rolling back protections on wild places and water.

And with all this the cherry on top of the shit sandwich is the world powers seem to be run by a cabal of serial child rapists and demonic individuals that are untouchable.

Also middle class and agree. We know what we physically see and feel regardless of what anyone tells us. I know those things listed are costing more. I also know my p/u was on E and I filled it up for $60. I feel like it wasn't that long ago that was $80. Not sure. The other thing is we can't get unbiased information. And we can't get the entire story. Have you ever been anywhere and seen something happen and then read the article in the paper. Could be a news worthy event or even a sporting event from high school through pro. Very rarely is the info 100% correct. And yet we trust those same sources for things that matter????

 

[NDGuy]

Also middle class and agree. We know what we physically see and feel regardless of what anyone tells us. I know those things listed are costing more. I also know my p/u was on E and I filled it up for $60. I feel like it wasn't that long ago that was $80. Not sure. The other thing is we can't get unbiased information. And we can't get the entire story. Have you ever been anywhere and seen something happen and then read the article in the paper. Could be a news worthy event or even a sporting event from high school through pro. Very rarely is the info 100% correct. And yet we trust those same sources for things that matter????

It's not coincidence that after cheeto got in office nobody trusts anything they see, read, or hear anymore.

Part of the plan

 

[El Jason]

It's not coincidence that after cheeto got in office nobody trusts anything they see, read, or hear anymore.

Part of the plan

It is ironic how the propaganda machine has convinced folks that everything else but them is a propaganda machine.

 

[Rainer]

Can someone explain how Bondi and Patel still have their jobs? I know they've gutted the staff of every federal department but come one

 

[Dougfirtree]

Hunting Wife said:
Unless I missed where the Democrat party endorsed this, it seems fairly disingenuous to categorize this as an idea from “democrats”. More like the crazy animal rights folks, of which I personally know some from both political persuasions who are equally delusional about “saving animals”.

To act like whats going on in Oregon isn't coming from democrats is a great example didnt even have to go look.

Colorado, washington,Oregon, California all great examples of states that would like nothing more then to eliminate hunting, fishing,

Yes, and a long list of Republican officials, like Mike Lee, are for selling off public lands. Are you comfortable with the statement that 'Republicans are against public land and would like nothing more than to sell it all off?'
It wouldn't be true, just like it's not true that Democrats are against hunting. Say instead, that it seems to be an opinion that is too prevalent in the party, or speak out against a particular politician, but don't fall into the trap of absolute partisanship.

 

[Gulf of America]

Can someone explain how Bondi and Patel still have their jobs? I know they've gutted the staff of every federal department but come one

In every corner of gov, loyalty has replaced competency, and they are still loyal. Ironically, the incompetency in DOJ is turning out to be a convenient guardrail against the ridiculous political persecution they're attempting.

 

[Archer86]

I don’t want to speak for hunting wife, but assigning this ideology to every Democrat in the states you listed is where the disagreement comes from. I know a fair number of Democrats that have absolutely no interest in ending hunting or fishing. To assign this to them as a whole makes about as much sense of saying all Republicans want to curtail second amendment rights because of Trump‘s recent comments on carrying guns.

I agree what i was getting at is this ideology comes from the democratic side everytime and democrat politicians will run with it even if its a small number that support it.

Democrat sportsman/women need to push back on these ideas more then they have so they thought doesnt even cross their mind.

I don't belive every democrat hates hunting and fishing. i do belive every dem politician will run with a anti hunting bill if those supporting it are louder then those against it. We see that time and time again.

You are 100% correct in saying these ideas stem from someone who is a Democrat. However, that does not align the whole group with their way of thinking.

This i agree with as well. But it seam we see all the time just because someone is republican means they are maga........

Washington currently has a Democratic governor that is quite frankly doing a pretty good job of realigning the fishing wildlife commission with people who view hunting and fishing in a more scientific in pragmatic way.

This is yet to be determined more wishful thinking then anything. Ferguson isn't much different then inslee

If spring bear comes back I will happily admit i was wrong. I just don't see that happening.

 

[El Jason]

If spring bear comes back I will happily admit i was wrong. I just don't see that happening.

Ferguson is night and day different from Inslee in his approach to the commission. More specifically to Inslee‘s approach to the commission towards the end of his tenure. Early on, he was actually fairly decent.

All that said, I’ll bet you a case of beer in five years Washington has a spring bear hunt again. And unlike some of the clowns on hunt talk, I will pay up on my bet.

 

[Archer86]

Yes, and a long list of Republican officials, like Mike Lee, are for selling off public lands. Are you comfortable with the statement that 'Republicans are against public land and would like nothing more than to sell it all off?'
It wouldn't be true, just like it's not true that Democrats are against hunting. Say instead, that it seems to be an opinion that is too prevalent in the party, or speak out against a particular politician, but don't fall into the trap of absolute partisanship.

Republicans lawmakers are anti public land no doubt in my mind and we should crush the idea anytime it comes up.

you think Republicans wouldn't sell off every piece of valuable public land the first chance they got if they didnt have push back? I am not that confident......

 

[Bonasababy]

Colorado seems to be enough of a example. What Polis has done in the last 7 years and continues to do to hunting in that state is extremely concerning.

I think the point being made was some people here see such actions in Colorado as being ok. Which just is not the case from what I and assume most others think.

 

[Archer86]

Ferguson is night and day different from Inslee in his approach to the commission. More specifically to Inslee‘s approach to the commission towards the end of his tenure. Early on, he was actually fairly decent.

All that said, I’ll bet you a case of beer in five years Washington has a spring bear hunt again. And unlike some of the clowns on hunt talk, I will pay up on my bet.

I will take that bet! I do hope I am wrong.