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Man your quipped jabs are getting more and more pathetic.

Serious question; when would you say you quit believing local and national news? 2016, 2020? Just curious because it seems most folks that claim to be independent thinkers weren’t that way before 2016.

Not sure your age, but what were your news sources pre 2016, and what are they now?
What in the last say since 9/11 makes you want to believe anything fully. Kennedy said not long ago conspiracy theories are up like 37-0.
In 5 or 6 years we can revisit the year of 2025 into 2026 and see how dumb we all were or how smart we all were.
 
This seams about right for some that drift from thread to thread
My dude, I’m not trying to be mean spirited and hate to come across as singling anyone out on the WWW… but either your autocorrect did you wrong in the fiery finger heat of the meme chit-posting or you should be very concerned about the current administration’s attempts to obliterate the Department of Education.
 
I will reiterate, if you experienced treatment like that at the hands of law enforcement, I’m quite certain your recounting of the events would be very emphatic and emotional.
Man, there just doesn’t seem to be enough of “How would I feel if that happened to me?” or “Would I be upset if the ‘other guy’ did that?” left these days.

At its core, it’s wild that, as a society we’ve forgotten or chosen to ignore some fundamental life principals, such as humility and decency.

I’m sure everyone has some equivocation or “whaddaboutism,” but justifying treating others like chit because we perceive ourselves to have been wronged or slighted at some point can only go on for so long.

It’s mystifying how people have become such myopic, selfish little twits and that all the aforementioned negative traits are actually celebrated today.

BTW, I haven’t watched the video in question but can easily assume its contents.

Also, for what it’s worth, I’m not trying to single you out, WyoCoalMiner. So uh, sorry if it seems that way.
 


The reason democrats are there own enemies...CNN reported a large number of Americans favor voter id democrats and Republicans yet the democrats still will refuse to pass it. Its 2026 its not hard to get a ID to be able to vote if am not sure why this is even debated


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Help me out here. The convo was about the gal's testimony. But your argument is that because you disagree with Democrats on a completely separate topic, voter ID, you also disagree with her testimony?

So because you disagree with one thing, you're going to expand that disagreement to all topics, just because?

I'm clearly not tracking here.
 
It’s mystifying how people have become such myopic, selfish little twits and that all the aforementioned negative traits are actually celebrated today
I think its myopic to think that this woman's testimony wasnt rehearsed and performed to push a narrative. I also think its myopic to believe all ICE agents are good and aren't breaking any laws. I think its myopic to believe any part of these protests are organic. Since I think this way im a selfish little twit. 2 wrongs never make a right and our govt is really good at convincing people otherwise.
 
What in the last say since 9/11 makes you want to believe anything fully. Kennedy said not long ago conspiracy theories are up like 37-0.
In 5 or 6 years we can revisit the year of 2025 into 2026 and see how dumb we all were or how smart we all were.
You think all news is BS but trust what RFK’s brain worm is saying??
 
I think its myopic to think that this woman's testimony wasnt rehearsed and performed to push a narrative.
To enact change, yes. I’m sure she rehearsed it numerous times before she testified. That’s normal. I’m sure her agenda was along the lines of “this is messed up “. And again, if this happened to you or a family member I expect you would want change as well.
 
Man, there just doesn’t seem to be enough of “How would I feel if that happened to me?” or “Would I be upset if the ‘other guy’ did that?” left these days.

At its core, it’s wild that, as a society we’ve forgotten or chosen to ignore some fundamental life principals, such as humility and decency.

I’m sure everyone has some equivocation or “whaddaboutism,” but justifying treating others like chit because we perceive ourselves to have been wronged or slighted at some point can only go on for so long.

It’s mystifying how people have become such myopic, selfish little twits and that all the aforementioned negative traits are actually celebrated today.

BTW, I haven’t watched the video in question but can easily assume its contents.

Also, for what it’s worth, I’m not trying to single you out, WyoCoalMiner. So uh, sorry if it seems that way.
I find it interesting that you think I have not done those things and simply came to a different conclusion than you. That because I see her testimony as more performance than genuine, I somehow lack your level of humility or decency. My thoughts have nothing to do with being wronged or slighted. Her testimony seemed manufactured and contrived. Even the video of it seemed produced and directed to achieve a desired outcome. I've watched plenty of congressional testimony and it typically consists of something you would see on C-SPAN. A wide shot from in front, no production. This looked like a low budget Hollywood production. They knew just when to zoom in to catch the quivering lips and the trembling hands. I don't believe for a minute that in the moment she thought back to George Floyd or any of the others she mentioned. I don't believe she thought they were executing people and stacking bodies in rooms. This video looked like propaganda, produced to elicit a response. And it appears it worked well. But in the end, I don't know, that was just my take. No more, no less.

The actions of the ICE officers in this case were complelty unjustified and without need. She didn't deserve that treatment. I do wonder how getting yelled at, called a nazi, spit on, videoed, whistles blown at you, called a murderer, etc. all day at work would affect how you do your job? Not justification for the officer's response but might help to explain how they got to that point.

No need to apologize, not concerned about being singled out. Your thoughts are just that, as are mine. I take no offense in disagreement and no joy in agreement. I do think you may be drawing some conclusions about me that are incomplete, but I suspect I am guilty of that as well.
 
Help me out here. The convo was about the gal's testimony. But your argument is that because you disagree with Democrats on a completely separate topic, voter ID, you also disagree with her testimony?

So because you disagree with one thing, you're going to expand that disagreement to all topics, just because?

I'm clearly not tracking here.
Did you read the article it clearly talks about dems opposition to voter ID. What I don't get is why is this a issue for dems when over 70 percent support it.

I get the far left when they can't find a way to logically attack a resonable idea they try and attack the person that brings it up. The reasonable left.........lol
 
To enact change, yes. I’m sure she rehearsed it numerous times before she testified. That’s normal. I’m sure her agenda was along the lines of “this is messed up “. And again, if this happened to you or a family member I expect you would want change as well.
But I think its probably mostly bullshit. Body stacking give me a break! When is the movie coming out should be a blockbuster! What happened to her is not justified, but the rhetoric propaganda on top of whatever the actual truth is was not needed.
 
Did you read the article it clearly talks about dems opposition to voter ID. What I don't get is why is this a issue for dems when over 70 percent support it.

I get the far left when they can't find a way to logically attack a resonable idea they try and attack the person that brings it up. The reasonable left.........lol
Ask any AI if the save act will make it harder for married woman to vote? IF I'm misspeaking then ignore.
 
Did you read the article it clearly talks about dems opposition to voter ID. What I don't get is why is this a issue for dems when over 70 percent support it.

I get the far left when they can't find a way to logically attack a resonable idea they try and attack the person that brings it up. The reasonable left.........lol
I did read the article. I just didn't see how it fit the current discussion. If the idea is that parties don't always support the ideas of the voters they represent, then I agree, I think that's always been the case. But I assume you remember why, or the root from which people would resist voter ID laws right? I mean the Jim Crow era was pretty brutal, and there were (and are) active efforts to prevent US citizens from being able to vote. Some people think that it is a greater "good" to prevent illegal immigrants from voting at the cost of some citizens not being able to vote. Other people think it is far more American to ensure that EVERY citizen can vote. You can take a look at how many US citizens don't have id, it ranges from about 1% have no ID at all, to 10% who's ID doesn't match their current place of residence.
 
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Some people think that it is a great "good" to prevent illegal immigrants from voting at the cost of some citizens not being able to vote.
This is an excellent point and can be used to draw some other parallels.

For example, fighting crime is far easier if you intrude into civil rights. Is it better to sacrifice some civil rights in order to more effectively deter crime? Or, are civil rights sacred and less effective law enforcement is the necessary byproduct. To me, it’s the latter without question.

Do you risk sending an innocent person to jail in your quest to incarcerate criminals? Or is this collateral damage simply unacceptable? Again, in my opinion I’d rather see a guilty person skate than an innocent person lose their freedom.

What are acceptable collateral damages in society? Barriers to voting should be weighed very carefully to determine if the societal cost is worth it.
 
I agree that the usage of 'Nazi' has been thrown around a little too freely the past couple(+) of years and likely has diluted the meaning.

The far-right nationalist movement of 1930s Germany didn't start with the gassing of the Untermensch on day one. And I'm not suggesting that the United States will soon begin a widespread (or a narrow) gassing camping. However, there certainly seem to be numerous applicable parallels between the rise of German Nazis and some of what we have seen in the last year.

Most concerningly, there is a federal police force acting with "absolute immunity," bypassing Constitutional rights and norms to indiscriminately round up a class of humans without judicial oversight. Those rounded up seemingly have limited appeal rights before being sent to holding facilities/prisons in other states. Prior to this effort, there was a substantive campaign to blame illegal immigrants for nearly any complaint one could come up with (taking all the jobs, they're murderers/rapists, buying all the houses). The idea of having to prove your citizenship by carrying documentation easily elicits ideas associated with Nazi Germany.

There has been a fairly successful consolidation of power within the Executive and a bypassing of Congress which fits with an authoritarian push. The revival of the Monroe Doctrine and the desire for annexation of nearby territory are not without some similarities. There is also the appearance of retribution and targeting of political adversaries in addition to attempts to control independent media.

While I think Nazi has been overused, it doesn't seem like that much of a stretch to see some of what is currently going on as certainly authoritarian and perhaps Nazi-esque.
 
Again, in my opinion I’d rather see a guilty person skate than an innocent person lose their freedom.
I definitely understand this sentiment, but thats a fine line. There is quite few families of dead people at the hands of illegal immigration that would probably gladly serve life as an innocent person to bring their kid back. One thing I definitely learned and believe is wide open borders cause a shit load of problems.
 
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