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You don't realize the complete error in that statement? Is Grover Norquist your daddy?

Before the 2018 cuts the non partisan CBO projected they would add 1.9 TRILLION dollars to the national debt in ten years. Recent work by them has said extending those cuts (Trump actually wants to increase them) will add an additional 4.2 TRILLION dollars to the national debt.

Multiple sources assign a higher amount of growth of debt to those tax cuts than government spending, in fact.

Even if you believe the overly inflated estimates of Doge cuts, the administrations claim of 170 BILLION--that of course can't all be verified--it is a tiny fraction of the increase in debt coming from tax cuts.
First - look into the "laffer curve"

Then - point me to an american tax break that made the gov take less revenue.

If your logic rings true - should be easy to point to the late Obama years and compare to early trump term 1.
 
If you cant retire because of stock market high and lows. You probabaly didn't prepare accordingly. Then to top it off if you didn't see what the orange man was going to do with tarrifs he didn't keep it a secret and you didn't adjust off that your a fool.
 
Guys guys guys... if Trump did it, 70% of the people on this site hate it. If he didn't do it, the same 70% will probably support it.

Someone whose name starts with a D could solve world hunger, and half the people would still be mad about it.
 
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Guys guys guys... if Trump did it, 70% of the people on this site hate it. If he didn't do it, the same 70% will probably support it.

Someone whose name starts with a D could solve world hunger, and half the people would still be mad about it.
I don't know how you figure me as a percentage but I'm one of the ones who voted for the guy who's named starts with D because he seemed like a better option than the second string democrat who was put late in 4th quarter but I'm still disappointed with how it's going so far. I thought we were getting lower gas prices but it was $2.64 here before we elected him and the fish were biting and I had meat in the freezer and no one was threatening to sell public lands to build homes on.
 
I don't know how you figure me as a percentage but I'm one of the ones who voted for the guy who's named starts with D because he seemed like a better option than the second string democrat who was put late in 4th quarter but I'm still disappointed with how it's going so far. I thought we were getting lower gas prices but it was $2.64 here before we elected him and the fish were biting and I had meat in the freezer and no one was threatening to sell public lands to build homes on.
Not everyone it was a made up percentage. But a lot of people here hate absolutely anything Trump does. I'm not assuming you do. But if you want to know a list of people who do, feel free to PM me and I'll give you plenty of names of people who hate everything he does because he's not a dem. Which is a bummer.
 
Not everyone. But a lot of people here hate absolutely anything Trump does. I'm not assuming you do. But if you want to know a list of people who do, feel free to PM me and I'll give you plenty of names of people who hate everything he does because he's not a dem. Which is a bummer.

Serious question. Do you really believe the reason people hate some of the things he is doing is because he’s not a democrat?
 
Not everyone it was a made up percentage. But a lot of people here hate absolutely anything Trump does. I'm not assuming you do. But if you want to know a list of people who do, feel free to PM me and I'll give you plenty of names of people who hate everything he does because he's not a dem. Which is a bummer.
In my opinion it's just truly unfortunate that we weren't offered a better candidate by either party.
 
Wish in one hand and shit in the other...you know the rest.
Literally the exact quote I thought about.
In my opinion it's just truly unfortunate that we weren't offered a better candidate by either party.
I've voted for a third party candidate the last several presidential elections. Funny thing is the one thing D and R seem to agree about is I'm wasting my vote. Hilarious to hear someone say they won't vote for a third party candidate because they're not a "serious" candidate. My brothers and sisters throw off the shackles of a two party system and vote for a goober.
 
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Literally the exact quote I thought about.
I've voted for a third party candidate the last several presidential elections. Funny thing is the one thing D and R seem to agree about is I'm wasting my vote. Hilarious to hear someone say they won't vote for a third party candidate because they're not a "serious" candidate. My brothers and sisters throw off the shackles of a two party system and vote for a goober.
I liked Kennedy best of the 3 till he threw in with Trump. That swung my decision.
 
Serious question. Do you really believe the reason people hate some of the things he is doing is because he’s not a democrat?
I hate some of the things he’s doing because they suck. Like tariffs, which are a tax.
But yes, I think alot of people oppose everything he says or does beciase of who he is.

Democrats had redeemable qualities prior to Trump.

They opposed war, supported free speech, weren’t the party closest aligned to billionaires, the military industrial complex, big tech, big banks and big Pharma.
They could say that illegal immigration was a crime and they certainly didn’t protest the removal of violent, criminal illegals.
They were outspoken on legalizing marijuana. They had the support of not just union bosses, but blue collar union workers.
They’ve either given up on or proudly handed what the vast majority of moderate America thinks is the correct stance on every one of those issues to Trump and right wing populism.
They’ve thrown away any chance of getting a vote from a lot of people purely out of their spite and hatred for one person.



I’m talking about at the national level. There’s some great democrats in local and state politics in places like Montana and hopefully always will be.
 

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